Compare the Bond lengths of IO2F2 and IOF3

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around comparing the bond lengths of the compounds IO2F2- and IOF3, focusing on the structural implications of their bonding arrangements. Participants explore the relationship between bond types and lengths, as well as the validity of the compounds in question.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that IO2F2 has a larger bond length than IOF3 due to having more double bonds, which they believe contributes to greater p character and thus longer average bond lengths.
  • Another participant argues that IOF3 should have a larger average bond length because it contains more single bonds compared to IO2F2, which has a combination of single and double bonds.
  • Several participants question the existence of IO2F2, suggesting it may refer to IO2F2- instead, and express uncertainty about the meaningfulness of comparing average bond lengths without specifying which bonds are included.
  • One participant expresses concern about the electron count around iodine in IO2F2-, suggesting that having two double bonds would lead to too many electrons, and proposes a different structural representation for IOF3.
  • Another participant agrees with the concern about the question's framing and expresses frustration with the clarity of the question posed by the publishers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the bond length comparison, with multiple competing views regarding the implications of bond types and the validity of the compounds discussed.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the correct representation of the compounds, particularly the existence of IO2F2 versus IO2F2-. Additionally, the discussion highlights potential issues with the clarity of the original question, which may affect the analysis of bond lengths.

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Homework Statement
Compare the average bondlengths of the following compounds

IO2F2 and IOF3
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%S charecter inversly proportional to bond lenth
Okay So our Chemistry Professor gave us the answer as the following

IO2F2 has a larger bond length than IOF3

The reason being is once you draw the structures of the compounds IO2F2 has more number of double bonds that the later hence it shall have more p charecter than IOF3...hence it will have a larger avg bond length...but well i sort of don't undestand this logic

Well hear me out, so a single bond is larger than a double bond right, so IOF3
Has 3 single bonds, a lone pair and a double bond while IO2F2 has 2 single , 2 double bonds , and a lone pair...so due to the latger no of single bonds the avg bond length will be higher in IOF3

Yea so i think the answer is IOF3 has the larger avg bond length.(as opposed to my professor)

Could you please rectify me if I am wrong ?
Thank you :)
 

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IO2F2 doesn't exist. Do you mean IO2F2-?

Do you mean average length of all bonds, I-O and I-F? That doesn't seem to be a very meaningful comparison.
 
mjc123 said:
IO2F2 doesn't exist. Do you mean IO2F2-?

Do you mean average length of all bonds, I-O and I-F? That doesn't seem to be a very meaningful comparison.

The question was just compare average bond lengths. They didnt specify which bonds to compare

And yes, I am sorry the copound was IO2F2-
Im so sorry for that error
 
EDIT#1 - THe Question is to compare Average bond lengths of IO2F2- and IOF3There is an error in the Orignal post where i forgot to add the "-" superscript, sorry for the inconvinience
 
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I think you'd have too many electrons round I if you had two I=O double bonds in IO2F2-. In IOF3, replace one F by O- (with a single bond). The IO2 moiety should be O=I-O- ↔ O--I=O (not linear!)
 
mjc123 said:
I think you'd have too many electrons round I if you had two I=O double bonds in IO2F2-. In IOF3, replace one F by O- (with a single bond). The IO2 moiety should be O=I-O- ↔ O--I=O (not linear!)

I agree with this, but they gave the structure like that in the question.
(Im beginning to think this is a horribly framed question...Good job publishers ! Making us students life easier)
 

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