Comparing Polynomials: Determining the Larger Sum of Exponentiated Coefficients

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The discussion revolves around comparing two sums involving exponentiated coefficients of polynomials, specifically examining the expressions \(\sum_{i=1}^n a_i^{1/3}\sum_{i=1}^n a_i\) and \(n\sum_{i=1}^n a_i^{4/3}\) under the condition that \(a_i > 0\) for all \(i\). Participants are exploring the complexities of determining which sum is larger.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the difficulty of comparing the two sums and suggest taking derivatives or using induction as potential approaches. There is also a consideration of specific cases where all \(a_i\) are equal, which simplifies the comparison.

Discussion Status

Some participants have noted that there is no general answer to the comparison, as it depends on the values of \(a_i\). They have identified specific scenarios where one sum is larger than the other based on the values of \(a_i\), indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the comparison may depend on the sequence of \(a_i\) and its boundaries, suggesting that additional constraints or information about the coefficients could influence the outcome of the discussion.

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Dear all,

Does anyone know how to determine which of the following sum is larger? Thanks a lot!
[tex] \sum_{i=1}^n a_i^{1/3}\sum_{i=1}^n a_i[/tex]

[tex] n\sum_{i=1}^n a_i^{4/3}[/tex]

[tex] a_i>0 \forall i[/tex]

This is two polynomial of the same order. It is not clear to determine which one is larger, if I take the derivatives.
 
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phonic said:
Dear all,

Does anyone know how to determine which of the following sum is larger? Thanks a lot!
[tex] \sum_{i=1}^n a_i^{1/3}\sum_{i=1}^n a_i[/tex]

[tex] n\sum_{i=1}^n a_i^{4/3}[/tex]

[tex] a_i>0 \forall i[/tex]

This is two polynomial of the same order. It is not clear to determine which one is larger, if I take the derivatives.

Try proving by induction.
 
There is no general answer. It is easy to compare the two sums if all a's are the same. If =1, the sums are the same. If a>1, the first sum is larger. If a<1, the second sum is larger.
 
mathman said:
There is no general answer. It is easy to compare the two sums if all a's are the same. If =1, the sums are the same. If a>1, the first sum is larger. If a<1, the second sum is larger.

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Basically it depends on the sequence of [itex]a_i[/itex]. Like whether or not it has certain boundaries like you mentionned.
 

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