Comparing R^2 from log and level models

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In summary, two models with known R^2 values, one with a logarithmic dependent variable and the other with a level dependent variable, cannot be directly compared in terms of goodness-of-fit. While it is possible to manipulate the log model to make a comparison, the reason for this limitation is that the dependent variable's form affects the interpretation of the R^2 values. A deeper explanation can be found in the concept of scaling effects, which explores the impact of different dependent variable forms on model comparisons.
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Say we have 2 models:

[tex]ln(y) = \beta_0 + \beta_1 x_1 + \cdots + \beta_nx_n[/tex] with a known R^2

and

[tex]y = \beta_0 + \beta_1 x_1 + \cdots + \beta_nx_n[/tex] with a known R^2

Now I know that we can not compare the R^2's from these 2 models to determine goodness-of-fit and I am also aware of how we can manipulate the log model so that we can compare, but my question is, what is the reason for which we can't compare? Obviously the dependent variable is the natural log for the first one and the second model is level in terms of y, but is there a deeper reason? Why is it that if the dependent variable's form is different, then we cannot compare the R^2's between the models?

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Deep as you would like, I would think.

http://www.yale.edu/ciqle/Breen_Scaling%20effects.pdf
 

Related to Comparing R^2 from log and level models

1. What is R^2 in the context of comparing log and level models?

R^2, also known as the coefficient of determination, is a statistical measure of how well a model fits the data. It represents the proportion of variation in the dependent variable that can be explained by the independent variables in the model. In the context of comparing log and level models, R^2 is used to determine which model provides a better fit for the data.

2. How are log models and level models different?

Log models and level models differ in the way they handle the relationship between the dependent and independent variables. In a log model, the dependent variable is transformed using a logarithmic function, while in a level model, the variables are used in their original form. This can lead to different interpretations and predictions from the models.

3. Why is it important to compare R^2 from log and level models?

Comparing R^2 from log and level models allows us to determine which model provides a better fit for the data. This is important because a higher R^2 indicates a stronger relationship between the variables, and a better fit means that the model can more accurately predict the dependent variable. It also helps us understand the impact of using log transformations on the model results.

4. Can R^2 from log and level models be directly compared?

No, R^2 from log and level models cannot be directly compared. This is because the two models have different scales and interpretations of the dependent variable. In order to compare R^2, it is necessary to use a statistical test or to transform the R^2 values to a common scale.

5. How can the results of comparing R^2 from log and level models be interpreted?

The results of comparing R^2 from log and level models can be interpreted by looking at the difference in R^2 values and the significance of this difference. A higher R^2 and a significant difference between the models indicates that the log model provides a better fit for the data. On the other hand, if the difference in R^2 is not significant, it may be more appropriate to use the simpler level model.

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