Comparison of Electric and Magnetic Forces

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The discussion focuses on comparing electric and magnetic forces between two positive point charges moving parallel to each other. The key conclusion is that the ratio of the magnetic force (Fmag) to the electric force (Felec) is given by the formula Fmag/Felec = v1*v2/c^2, where v1 and v2 are the velocities of the charges and c is the speed of light. The solution involves applying the Lorentz force and utilizing the Biot-Savart law to determine the magnetic field generated by the first charge, which subsequently affects the second charge.

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  • Understanding of the Lorentz force equation: F = qE + qv*B
  • Familiarity with the Biot-Savart law for calculating magnetic fields
  • Knowledge of electromagnetic theory, specifically the relationship between electric and magnetic forces
  • Basic understanding of the speed of light and its significance in electromagnetic interactions
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  • Learn about the implications of the speed of light in electromagnetic theory
  • Explore the derivation of the Lorentz force in various contexts
  • Investigate applications of electric and magnetic forces in particle physics
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Homework Statement


Suppose that the instantaneous velocities of two positive point charges are parallel. Compare the electric and magnetic forces. Show that the ratio of the magnetic force (Fmag) to the electric force (Felec) is: Fmag/Felec = v1*v2/c^2
Where v1 and v2 are the velocities of particle 1 and particle 2 respectively, and c is the speed of light.

Homework Equations


F = qE + qv*B

The Attempt at a Solution


I know that you need to use the Lorentz force in some form, but I am confused as to how the speed of light is incorporated into the solution. This is a practice problem for my exam later on this week, so any help would be appreciated.
 
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godiva said:
I know that you need to use the Lorentz force in some form, but I am confused as to how the speed of light is incorporated into the solution. This is a practice problem for my exam later on this week, so any help would be appreciated.
The easy way is to first figure out what the magnetic field B is, caused by the first moving particle (charge q moving at a speed of v1). Use the Biot-Savart law for a single particle. If you are using the general Biot-Savart law that is a function of current and wire length, substitute (current times length of wire) with (charge of particle times velocity of particle), which is the same thing for a single particle.

Once you know the magnetic field caused by the first particle, find the magnetic force on the second particle as it moves through the magnetic field with a velocity v2.

Then take the ratio of magnetic force to the electric force.

Finally, note that [itex]c = 1/\sqrt{\mu _0 \epsilon _0}[/itex]
 
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