Complete sets and complete spaces

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion focuses on the definitions and relationships between complete spaces, complete sets, and Hilbert spaces in the context of infinite-dimensional inner product spaces. A complete space is defined as one where every Cauchy sequence converges within the space, while a Hilbert space is a complete metric space defined by an inner product. The conversation highlights that an infinite set of orthonormal vectors in an inner product space is not necessarily complete, and clarifies the distinction between complete sets and bases, emphasizing that completeness does not imply linear independence.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Cauchy sequences in metric spaces
  • Knowledge of inner product spaces and their properties
  • Familiarity with the definitions of Hilbert spaces
  • Concept of orthonormal sets and their significance in vector spaces
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the properties of Cauchy sequences in complete metric spaces
  • Explore the concept of orthonormal bases in Hilbert spaces
  • Investigate the implications of linear independence in vector spaces
  • Learn about the differences between Hamel bases and Schauder bases in functional analysis
USEFUL FOR

Mathematicians, physicists, and students studying functional analysis, particularly those interested in the properties of Hilbert spaces and the structure of infinite-dimensional vector spaces.

cromata
Messages
8
Reaction score
0
-Definition of complete space: if every Cauchy sequence of points in M has a limit that is also in M or, alternatively, if every Cauchy sequence in converges in M. (and from this definition we can define Hilbert Space)
-Definition of Hilbert space:
A Hilbert space is a vector space
Inline1.gif
with an inner product
Inline2.gif
such that the norm defined by

NumberedEquation1.gif

turns
Inline3.gif
into a complete metric space
-Definition of complete set: If V is inner product space and {ek}k∈ℕ is orthonormal set of vectors then we say that {ek}k∈ℕ is complete if for every u∈V u=∑<ek,u>ek

I have several questions:
-In infinite dimension inner vector spaces, infinite set of orthonormal vectors is not necessarily complete vector set? (is this true, and if it is, why?)

-Are complete sets and complete vector spaces connected in some way? Is every infinite set of orthonormal vectors in complete space (or more precisely in Hilbert space) complete set?

-What is the difference between complete set and basis?
 

Attachments

  • Inline1.gif
    Inline1.gif
    308 bytes · Views: 519
  • Inline2.gif
    Inline2.gif
    652 bytes · Views: 486
  • NumberedEquation1.gif
    NumberedEquation1.gif
    1.3 KB · Views: 534
  • Inline3.gif
    Inline3.gif
    308 bytes · Views: 512
Physics news on Phys.org
cromata said:
Definition of complete set: If V is inner product space and {ek}k∈ℕ is orthonormal set of vectors then we say that {ek}k∈ℕ is complete if for every u∈V u=∑<ek,u>ek
This contains a critical ambiguity - that you have not specified whether the sum is finite or infinite.
An orthonormal basis for a Hilbert space H is an orthonormal set of vectors whose span is dense in H.
An orthonormal Hamel basis for a Hilbert space H is an orthonormal set of vectors whose span is equal to H.
cromata said:
-In infinite dimension inner vector spaces, infinite set of orthonormal vectors is not necessarily complete vector set? (is this true, and if it is, why?)
Say ##\{e_k\}_{k\in\mathbb N}## is a basis. Then the infinite, orthonormal subset ##\{e_{2k}\}_{k\in\mathbb N}## of even-numbered elements of the set, is not complete (because if it were the original set would not be linearly independent), and hence not a basis.

cromata said:
-What is the difference between complete set and basis?
As I learned it, completeness of a set of vectors does not entail linear independence. If a complete set is not linearly independent, it is not a basis. But your definition above includes orthonormality, which entails linear independence, so your definition looks the same as that of either an orthonormal Hamel basis (if the sums must be finite) or an orthonormal basis (if they can be infinite).
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: cromata
These definitions are not restricted to Hilbert spaces. They apply to any vector space, where there is a defined norm.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
4K
  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
4K
  • · Replies 0 ·
Replies
0
Views
629
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K