Complex integral of a real integrand

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The discussion revolves around the evaluation of the integral $$\int_{\pi f}^{3\pi f} dx \sqrt{\cos(x/f)}$$ and the implications of obtaining a complex result from a real integrand with real limits. Participants explore the meaning of the variable 'f' and its role in the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral and notes that both Wolfram Alpha and Mathematica yield a complex result, questioning how a real integrand can lead to a complex outcome.
  • Another participant asserts that the integrand is not real, implying that this is the reason for the complex result.
  • A different participant seeks clarification on the meaning of 'f' in the limits of integration and in the cosine function, noting issues with the Wolfram Alpha link provided.
  • Further clarification is offered that 'f' is a constant, and a corrected link to Wolfram Alpha is shared.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the integrand and its implications, with some asserting it is not real while others seek clarification on the variable 'f'. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the interpretation of the integral's result.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the understanding of the variable 'f' and its impact on the integral, as well as the interpretation of the results from computational tools.

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I am trying to do the following integral:

$$\int_{\pi f}^{3\pi f} dx \sqrt{\cos(x/f)}.$$

Wolfram alpha - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+(cos(x))^(1/2)+dx+from+x=pi+to+3pi gives me

$$\int_{\pi f}^{3\pi f} dx \sqrt{\cos(x/f)} = 4f E(2) = 2.39628f + 2.39628if,$$

where E is the elliptic function.

Mathematica also gives me the same answer. How can the integral of a real integrand with real limits be complex?
 
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It cannot. Your integrand is not real.
 
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got it!
 
spaghetti3451 said:
I am trying to do the following integral:

$$\int_{\pi f}^{3\pi f} dx \sqrt{\cos(x/f)}.$$

Wolfram alpha - http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+(cos(x))^(1/2)+dx+from+x=pi+to+3pi gives me

$$\int_{\pi f}^{3\pi f} dx \sqrt{\cos(x/f)} = 4f E(2) = 2.39628f + 2.39628if,$$

where E is the elliptic function.
What's the meaning of 'f' in the limits of integration and in cos(x/f)? You don't have it in your Wolframalpha link. When I click the WA link you provided, it says that it doesn't understand the query, and gives a result of 1/2.
 
Mark44 said:
When I click the WA link you provided, it says that it doesn't understand the query, and gives a result of 1/2.
Remove the backslash ...
 
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This question is with regards to tunneling in false vacuum decay.
Mark44 said:
What's the meaning of 'f' in the limits of integration and in cos(x/f)? You don't have it in your Wolframalpha link. When I click the WA link you provided, it says that it doesn't understand the query, and gives a result of 1/2.

##f## is a constant. Here is the link that works:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=integrate+(cos(x))^(1/2)+dx+from+x=pi+to+3pi
 

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