Complex Numbers - Understanding and Working with z = x + iy and z^2 = x^2 + y^2

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The discussion centers on the mathematical representation and interpretation of complex numbers, specifically the expression z = x + iy and its square, z^2. Participants clarify that z^2 can be computed as (x + iy)(x + iy) resulting in x^2 - y^2 + 2ixy, while the modulus squared of z is represented as |z|^2 = x^2 + y^2. It is emphasized that the term 'squaring' can vary in meaning between mathematics and physics, with mathematicians using it to denote multiplication by itself, while physicists may refer to the modulus squared incorrectly as 'squaring'.

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let
z=x+iy

z^2=z.zpar=(x+iy)(x-iy)=x^2+y^2
or
z^2=(x+iy)(x+iy)=(x^2-y^2)
 
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It very much depends on your field. Generally in mathematics when one says the 'square' of a complex number one means literally multiplication by itself as in your latter example. However, physicists working in QM often refer to the multiplication of a complex number by it's complex conjugate as 'squaring' it, as for your former example.
 
Hootenanny said:
It very much depends on your field. Generally in mathematics when one says the 'square' of a complex number one means literally multiplication by itself as in your latter example. However, physicists working in QM often refer to the multiplication of a complex number by it's complex conjugate as 'squaring' it, as for your former example.

Thank you for you on your response
And on the new information for me
 
m_s_a said:
hi,








let
z=x+iy

z^2=z.zpar=(x+iy)(x-iy)=x^2+y^2
or
z^2=(x+iy)(x+iy)=(x^2-y^2)

Take note that (x+iy)(x+iy) is NOT equal to x^2-y^2. It's x^2-y^2+2ixy. Your first 'z^2' is the modulus (size) of the complex number squared. The second is the complex function z*z. They are quite different. A physicist who refers to the first operation as 'squaring' is being pretty sloppy. The proper term is 'modulus squared' and the proper notation is |z|^2.
 
Dick said:
Take note that (x+iy)(x+iy) is NOT equal to x^2-y^2. It's x^2-y^2+2ixy.
Nice catch Dick, didn't even see it :redface:
 
Thank you for you on the note
And thank you on the information that you presented
But this is a question in one of the issues:confused:
Thanks
 
m_s_a said:
But this is a question in one of the issues:confused:
Then I would suggest that,

z^2 = x^2 +2ixy - y^2
 
Hootenanny said:
Then I would suggest that,

z^2 = x^2 +2ixy - y^2

Thank you a lot
 

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