Compressed Air Cars: Benefits & Concept

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of using compressed air as a fuel source for cars, exploring its benefits, practical applications, and underlying mechanics. Participants discuss various methods of harnessing compressed air for propulsion, as well as the environmental implications of such technologies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe compressed air as a storage medium that can be used to power vehicles through turbines or pistons.
  • Concerns are raised about the weight of tanks required to hold high-pressure air, which may limit practical applications.
  • Participants suggest various methods to power toy cars with compressed air, including using reaction forces, pistons, and turbines.
  • One participant mentions the environmental considerations of using electricity to compress air, questioning the overall sustainability of compressed air vehicles.
  • Another participant notes that while compressed air engines are promising, the processes involved in their operation may have negative environmental impacts.
  • There is a mention of using wind energy to compress air, which could provide an alternative energy source for such systems.
  • Participants express interest in rotary engines, highlighting their advantages in design and functionality.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the feasibility and environmental impact of compressed air cars, with no clear consensus on the advantages or drawbacks of the technology. Multiple competing perspectives on the practicality and sustainability of compressed air as a fuel source remain present.

Contextual Notes

Some discussions involve assumptions about the efficiency of energy conversion and the environmental impact of electricity generation for compressing air, which are not fully resolved.

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hey guys can any1 tell me wats the concept behind cars using compreesed air as fuel...
 
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It is basically just a storage medium. You get power from the power grid, run a compressor to fill a tank of air, then release that air through a turbine to power whatever you need to power.
 
The main practical problem is the weight of the tanks needed to hold the high pressure air.
It was used for small 'steam' engines running in places like wood pulp mills where they couldn't use steam because of the risk of fire. The advantage of compressed air is that you don't need to modify the rest of the steam engine.
 
hi

mgb_phys said:
The main practical problem is the weight of the tanks needed to hold the high pressure air.
It was used for small 'steam' engines running in places like wood pulp mills where they couldn't use steam because of the risk of fire. The advantage of compressed air is that you don't need to modify the rest of the steam engine.

ya dats fine but can u tel me something about the which i can get from compressed air...
 
harpreet singh said:
ya dats fine but can u tel me something about the which i can get from compressed air...

please write in a proper way, its hard to understand what you are saying
 
You'll need to speak in correct English so we can understand what you are asking.
 
I'm assuming from your name that English isn't your first language (and you aren't just using txt-speak to be kewl).

There are 3 simple ways to power at least a toy car with compressed air:

1, You can just blow air out of the back and use the reaction force. Just imagine filling a balloon and letting go! You can also demonstrate this with an office chair and a CO2 fire extinguisher if no one in the office is watching.

2, You can use the expanding air to drive a piston, just like a steam engine, there used to be a popular toy car which did this. Just look up the details of how any steam engine works and substitute compressed air for high pressure steam.
This is the easiest to build for a school project.

3, You can use the air pressure to drive a turbine and then either use the turbine directly to drive the wheels or run a genarator to create electricity and then use electric motors to drive the wheels. Again this is exactly the same principle as a steam turbine.
 
run a reciprocating compressor with input and output swapped, see what you get.
 
I think compressed air engines are definitely worth looking into. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned http://home.ctlnet.com/~robotguy67/classic_cars/air_engines/V-Twin/air_engines.htm
It's got 2 pretty good designs: too bad the plans haven't been made available yet.

Of course, as in the Toyota Prius conundrum, just because something is better for the environment in its consumer use doesn't mean the processes required to maintain it don't have a bad impact on the environment. I mean the electricity to compress the air to put in the air tank must come from somewhere.

If you think about alternative energy sources, you could have a wind farm make electricity from air movement which then compresses the air into a tank, which is then released into chambers which rotate a shaft and drive something, so it's like converting moving air to movement, although in an indirect manner.
 
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TheRyan said:
If you think about alternative energy sources, you could have a wind farm make electricity from air movement which then compresses the air into a tank,
This is done, although generally they use hydraulic oil pumps.
It has the advantage that most the working parts are at ground level instead of on the top of a tower and you can combine the outputs of several windmills into one power source.

ps - I would love one of those rotary engines!
 
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It has the advantage that most the working parts are at ground level instead of on the top of a tower and you can combine the outputs of several windmills into one power source.

That makes a lot of sense. I agree, the rotary engine is awesome, especially with the narrow form factor. Also, being able to start in any position is a plus.
 

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