Computing Electric Field From The Potential

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The problem involves three identical point charges arranged in the xy plane, with two charges located on the y-axis and one on the x-axis. The task is to find the electric potential as a function of position along the x-axis and to derive the x component of the electric field from that potential.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the potential by summing the contributions from each point charge. They express uncertainty about the next steps after establishing the potential formula.
  • Participants question the values of the distances r1, r2, and r3 at a specific position along the x-axis, seeking clarification on the setup.
  • Some participants provide insights into the mathematical expressions for the distances and potential, while also noting the conditions for different regions along the x-axis.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants offering guidance on the mathematical relationships involved. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the problem setup and to derive the potential and electric field expressions. No explicit consensus has been reached, but there are constructive contributions that may help in progressing the discussion.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of the problem, including the need to check their results at specific points, such as the origin and as x approaches infinity. There is an emphasis on ensuring the mathematical expressions align with physical expectations.

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Three identical point charges, each with a charge equal to q, lie in the xy plane. Two of the charges are on the y axis at y = -a and y = +a, and the third charge is on the x axis at x = a.

a) Find the potential as a function of position along the x axis.
b) Use the part a) result to obtain an expression for [itex]E[/itex]x(x), the x component of the electric field as a function of x. Check your answers to parts a) and b) at the origin and as x approaches [itex]\infty[/itex] to see if they yield the expected results.

Hi all. I'm having a very hard time understanding this portion of Physics so please bear with me.

The furthest I got with this problem is deciding to use the sum of the potentials at each point to calculate the potential of the system. Something like...

[itex]\frac{kq_{1}}{r_{1}}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{kq_{2}}{r_{2}}[/itex] + [itex]\frac{kq_{3}}{r_{3}}[/itex]


I think that's the right approach since they are point charges. But now, I'm completely stuck and I don't know what I should do next... Please help!
 
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What are the values of r1, r2, and r3 at position x along the x-axis ?
 
SammyS said:
What are the values of r1, r2, and r3 at position x along the x-axis ?

Here's what I've done in regards to your question... I hope I am on the right track...

link: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/244748/2011-09-23%2018.29.26.jpg
 
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[itex]\sqrt{x^2+a^2}\ne x+a[/itex]

However, [itex]\sqrt{x^2+(-a)^2}=\sqrt{x^2+a^2}\,.[/itex]

r3 = | x - a | . If x > a then |x - a| = x -a . Otherwise, |x - a| = a - x .

So, V(x) = ?
 
SammyS said:
[itex]\sqrt{x^2+a^2}\ne x+a[/itex]

However, [itex]\sqrt{x^2+(-a)^2}=\sqrt{x^2+a^2}\,.[/itex]

r3 = | x - a | . If x > a then |x - a| = x -a . Otherwise, |x - a| = a - x .

So, V(x) = ?

So I suppose [itex]V(x) = kq(\frac{2}{\sqrt{x^{2}+a^{2}}} + \frac{1}{a-x})[/itex] if [itex]x < a[/itex] and [itex]V(x) = kq(\frac{2}{\sqrt{x^{2}+a^{2}}} + \frac{1}{x-a})[/itex] if [itex]x > a[/itex].

I think I can compute [itex]E_{x}(x)[/itex] from here.. Thanks for all your help!
 
Looks good !
 

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