Computing Inverse Laplace Transforms for F(s) = (-2s-2)/((s-1)^2+9)

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The discussion revolves around computing the inverse Laplace transform of the function F(s) = (-2s-2)/((s-1)²+9). Participants are exploring the steps necessary to derive the corresponding time-domain function f(t).

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  • Participants discuss various methods for manipulating the function F(s), including splitting the function into parts and applying the shift theorem. There are attempts to rewrite the function in a more manageable form and questions about the correct application of the shift formula.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the inverse Laplace transform, with some participants providing guidance on how to apply the shift theorem. Multiple interpretations of the steps involved are being discussed, and while some participants express uncertainty, others are clarifying their understanding of the process.

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Participants are grappling with the specifics of the shift theorem and its application to the given function, noting potential issues with the terms involved in the transformation. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem and the need for careful manipulation of the terms.

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Homework Statement


F(s)=(−2s−2)/((s−1)2+9)

Find f(x) by computing L-1[F(s)] = f(x).


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I made put (s-1) in place of s in the numerator, then compensated for that by subtracting 2:
F(s) = (-2(s-1) - 2 -2 ) / ((s-1)2 + 9)

Then s-1 becomes s...

F(s) = (-2s - 4) / (s2 + 32)

Split this into 2 parts:

-2s / s2 + 32 and (-4/3)(3 / s2 + 32)

This gives -2cos(3x) - (4/3)sin(3x) as f(x). But it's wrong... what should I have done differently?
 
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[tex]\frac{-2s-2}{(s-1)^2+9} =-2 \frac{s+1}{(s-1)^2+9}[/tex]


Now use a similar principle of (a+b)/c = a/c + b/c


(shift formula will help you here)
 
Okay so I split it up:

-2 [ s / ((s-1)2 + 9) + 1 / (s-1)2 + 9)

I'll work with s / (s-1)2 + 9 first. Rewrite the denominator as s - 1 + 1. Then split it up into two, so I have:

s-1 / (s-1)2 + 9 and 1 / (s-1)2 + 9)

Now working with just the first part of the above. If the shift formula was used then a = 1, and the other part was cos(3t). So this part of f(t) must have been etcos(3t).

Now for 1 / (s-1)2 + 9. if I multiply the whole thing by 1/3 then I can put a 3 in the denominator, so this part of f(t) is 1/3sin(3t). Since I have two of those (one from the second split) I get 2/3sin(3t).

Now I multiply everything by -2.

Final answer: -2etcos(3t) -4/3sin(3t).

Is that correct?
 
I think there's still a problem with the sin(3t). Because I have 1/ (s-1)^2 +9, not just s in the denominator. Did I need to use the shift formula there too? I'm not sure how as I have no s in the numerator to work with!
 
jumbogala said:
I think there's still a problem with the sin(3t). Because I have 1/ (s-1)^2 +9, not just s in the denominator. Did I need to use the shift formula there too? I'm not sure how as I have no s in the numerator to work with!



yes you have to shift that as well

[tex]L[sinkt]=\frac{k}{s^2+k^2}[/tex]
 
How do you shift it though? I can't put 1-s+s in the numerator, that doesn't help...
 
jumbogala said:
How do you shift it though? I can't put 1-s+s in the numerator, that doesn't help...

you don't need to, the second term (befor multiplying by -2) is


[tex]\frac{2}{(s-1)^2+9} = \frac{2}{3}\frac{3}{(s-1)^2+(3^2)}[/tex]


So you just shift it the same way with a=1
 
So -2[etcos(3t) - 0.67etsin(3t)]?
 
jumbogala said:
So -2[etcos(3t) - 0.67etsin(3t)]?

-2[etcos(3t) + 0.67etsin(3t)]
 
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Oops yeah, silly mistake. I think I finally understand, yay! Thanks very much for your help!
 

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