Computing the pole mass from a given MS mass?

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This discussion focuses on computing the pole mass from a given MS mass using Yukawa couplings and renormalization schemes. The key insight is that the conversion from running mass to pole mass depends on the choice of renormalization scheme, specifically whether to use all MS-bar or a combination of MS-bar and on-shell schemes. The discussion references Equation 31 from a relevant paper, suggesting that the conversion can be achieved without scale dependence, provided the appropriate vev is used. The participants emphasize the importance of considering both Yukawa and gauge coupling dependencies in the running mass calculations.

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  • Understanding of Yukawa couplings and their scale dependence
  • Familiarity with MS-bar and on-shell renormalization schemes
  • Knowledge of pole mass and running mass concepts in quantum field theory
  • Ability to interpret equations from particle physics literature, specifically from arXiv papers
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  • Study the conversion formulas from MS-bar to pole mass as outlined in the referenced paper
  • Learn about the implications of different renormalization schemes on mass calculations
  • Explore the role of vacuum expectation values (vev) in mass renormalization
  • Investigate the significance of gauge couplings (g1, g2, gs) in Yukawa coupling running
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This discussion is beneficial for theoretical physicists, particle physicists, and researchers working on mass calculations in quantum field theory, particularly those interested in the relationship between running and pole masses.

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Given a Yukawa coupling as a function of scale and a vev, how can I compute the corresponding pole mas?

Understandably most paper explain how from a measured pole mass one can compute the running mass, for example, Eq. 19 here. However I want to compute the pole mass from the running mass. In all formulas I can find the pole mass seems to depend on the scale, although it shouldn't, and thus I'm not sure which value I should use for the scale in the formula...
 
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Sorry for the late reply. Did you ever figure out what to do here?

I had a think about it. I came up with the following:

1) It depends under what your yukawa coupling is running. Are you considering both yukawa and full gauge coupling dependence (g1,g2,gs) in the running y(mu)? Then I think the conversion depends on the choice of renormalisation scheme (all msbar, or part msbar part on-shell scheme).

For example, it could be that you choose to renormalise electroweak couplings/gauge boson masses in the on-shell scheme. Then, the vev should be mu-independent, then you can directly convert the yukawa into the msbar mass using an input value of vev (or eliminating in terms of GFermi or similar).

2) Then you can apply the MSbar -> Mpole conversion according to the equations hepth linked too. Then, the mu-dependence of your answer should be removed in this conversion (i.e. it doesn't matter which scale you do it at) and the answer for the pole mass should not depend on mu.

How far did you get with this? Let me know and I can help farther
 

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