Conceptual thermodynamics problem about ammonia executing a Carnot cycle

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The work done in the condenser during process 2-3 of the Carnot cycle involving ammonia is zero due to the constant temperature and pressure conditions, which indicate no expansion or compression occurs. The mathematical explanation is rooted in the energy balance equation, where ΔW equals T(Δs) minus m'(Δh). Since the process involves only a phase change without shaft work, the work done is conclusively zero. This aligns with the equation ΔH = ΔQ - ΔW, confirming that both heat transfer processes in the cycle do not perform work.

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Homework Statement
Explain why the work done in process 2-3 is zero.
Relevant Equations
ΔH = ΔQ-ΔW
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Is there a mathematical explanation for why the work done in the condenser (in process 2 to 3) is zero? I am aware that ammonia does not expand or compress in the condenser, only changes phase, but without knowing that the process takes place in a condenser and only considering the graph, according to which temperature is constant for process 2-3, how can it be seen that no work is done in this process?

In process 2-3 the temperature and pressure are both constant. Because the cycle is reversible, Q = ∫Tds.

Substituting this in the energy balance, -m'(Δh)+∫Tds = ΔW. Because temperature is constant, ΔW = T(Δs)-m'(Δh).

W = TΔs - ΔH = T(sf-sg) + m(hg - hf)

It is not clear to me why this quantity is zero for process 2-3.
 

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Andrew1234 said:
Homework Statement:: Explain why the work done in process 2-3 is zero.
Relevant Equations:: ΔH = ΔQ-ΔW

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Is there a mathematical explanation for why the work done in the condenser (in process 2 to 3) is zero? I am aware that ammonia does not expand or compress in the condenser, only changes phase, but without knowing that the process takes place in a condenser and only considering the graph, according to which temperature is constant for process 2-3, how can it be seen that no work is done in this process?

In process 2-3 the temperature and pressure are both constant. Because the cycle is reversible, Q = ∫Tds.

Substituting this in the energy balance, -m'(Δh)+∫Tds = ΔW. Because temperature is constant, ΔW = T(Δs)-m'(Δh).

W = TΔs - ΔH = T(sf-sg) + m(hg - hf)

It is not clear to me why this quantity is zero for process 2-3.
There is no way to know unless, as in the case of a condenser, the device has no shaft that does shaft work. In other words, you need to know something about how your device works.
 
Thank you for clarifying this concept
 
Both processes, 2 to 3 and 4 to 1, have only transfer of heat.
The value of delta work in the equation ΔH = ΔQ-ΔW is always zero for these processes.
In real systems, there are sub-cooling and overheating portions besides pure change of phase in these processes.
 

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