Condition of continuity of E field at a boundary

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The discussion revolves around the continuity condition of the electric field (E field) at the boundary between two media, particularly in the context of deriving Snell's law using Maxwell's equations. Participants explore the implications of dynamic E fields and the application of Stokes' theorem in this scenario.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the continuity condition for the E field at the interface, questioning how it arises from Maxwell's equations, particularly in the context of dynamic fields.
  • Another participant notes that the magnetic field (B) also has boundary conditions, suggesting a broader consideration of field interactions at the boundary.
  • Some participants explain that the continuity of the tangential E field can be derived from applying Stokes' theorem to the equation rotE = -∂B/∂t, indicating that the area of integration approaches zero.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of the shape of the integration path, suggesting that it allows for the line integral to yield zero even if rotE is non-zero.
  • A later reply raises a question about the applicability of the continuity condition in scenarios involving a gradient layer between two phases, particularly when the geometry is curved.
  • Another participant speculates on the behavior of the E field's parallel component at a curved interface and questions whether the phase remains the same under such conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the application of Stokes' theorem to derive the continuity condition, but there is uncertainty regarding the implications of curved interfaces and gradient layers, with no consensus on how these factors affect the continuity of the E field or the phase.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the limitations of applying the continuity condition in non-flat geometries and the potential complexities introduced by gradient layers, indicating that the discussion is still open to exploration and refinement.

Gen1111
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I am trying to understand the derivation of Snell's law using Maxwell's equation and got stuck.

My textbook says that "the E field that is tangent to the interface must be continuous" in order to consider refraction of light.
If it were static E field I understand this is true because in electrostatics

rotE = 0

holds. However Snell's law describes how electromagnetic waves change their direction of propagation when going through an interface of two mediums. Since our E filed is changing dynamically, we should use the equation

rotE = -∂B/∂t

in stead. To me it is not obvious why this equation leads to the continuity condition.
How does the continuity condition in Snell's law appears from Maxwell's equations?
 
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The continuity of E tangential comes from applying Stokes' theorem to rotE = -∂B/∂t.
The area for [tex]\int{\bf dS}\partial_t{\bf B}[/tex] shrinks to zero.
 
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Meir Achuz said:
The continuity of E tangential comes from applying Stokes' theorem to rotE = -∂B/∂t.
The area for [tex]\int{\bf dS}\partial_t{\bf B}[/tex] shrinks to zero.

Stokes's theorem for rotE is
[tex]\int{ rot\bf{E}}{\bf dS}= \oint _{∂S} \bf Edx = \oint _{∂S} \bf \partial_t B dx[/tex]



How does this lead to the continuity condition?
 
OK I see. It seems like the continuity condition is something to do with the fact that the interface has zero volume and the planar surface is sufficiently large.
The path of line integration must be an infinitely thin rectangular when the area of the box approaches to 0.
The shape of the box is the key because it will allow the line integration to become 0 even if rotE is non-zero.
Thanks for all the replies.

Will the same rule apply if there is a gradient layer between the two phases?
Let's say the geometry is no longer flat but curved, and the curvature of radius is comparable to the thickness of gradient layer.
I'm pretty sure that the parallel component of the E field strength will still be continuous at any point.
But will the phase still be the same?
 
Gen1111 said:
Will the same rule apply if there is a gradient layer between the two phases?
Let's say the geometry is no longer flat but curved, and the curvature of radius is comparable to the thickness of gradient layer.
I'm pretty sure that the parallel component of the E field strength will still be continuous at any point.
But will the phase still be the same?
You know what the answer has to be already - what usually happens to Snell's Law when the surface is curved or the interface is not sharp?

You could try working it out for a simple setup - like a spherical interface (par-axial) - and see if the general boundary conditions give you the appropriate equations.
 

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