Conducting a Frequency Sweep for Resonance Frequency Determination

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The discussion revolves around methods for conducting a frequency sweep to determine the resonant frequency of an LC circuit, specifically with given inductance and capacitance values. Participants explore various techniques and parameters involved in achieving resonance, including both theoretical and practical approaches.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the process of performing a frequency sweep to find the resonant frequency, providing specific values for inductance and capacitance.
  • Another participant suggests using a function generator to sweep frequencies and observe voltage across the circuit to identify resonance, assuming a series connection of the components.
  • A different approach is proposed involving mechanical excitation of the system, such as tapping with a hammer and using accelerometers to analyze the response.
  • Participants discuss alternative methods for excitation, including using an impulse or a simple switch from a DC source.
  • A theoretical formula for resonant frequency is presented, but one participant calculates a different resonant frequency based on the provided values, indicating a discrepancy in expected results.
  • Another participant provides a detailed method for setting up the circuit with specific components and suggests a frequency range for the sweep to observe resonance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for achieving resonance and the expected resonant frequency based on the given values. There is no consensus on the best approach or the correct resonant frequency, as calculations and assumptions vary among participants.

Contextual Notes

Some calculations and assumptions regarding component values and configurations are not fully resolved, leading to different interpretations of the resonant frequency. The discussion includes various methods that may depend on specific setups or equipment availability.

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how does one perform a frequency sweep to obtain resonant frequency?

for instance, if the inductance is 50mH and the capacitance is 20nF, how do I achieve a resonant frequency of 200khz? what parameters are involved?
 
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You may need to describe your application a little better. Do you have access to a function generator? Run it at 200 kHz and connect it to your circuit. Look at the voltage across either the cap or inductor on an oscilloscope. Adjust the generator frequency for maximum voltage amplitude, and then you are at resonance.

edit added: I'm assuming the cap and inductor are connected in series. If your setup is otherwise, let us know. Again, a more detailed description generally helps to get a better answer.
 
Mechanically, a resonant frequency is found by tapping with a hammer- a standard hammer, if you can believe it. Accelerometers record the response and the data is processed to obtain the resonant behavior.

You could probably do the same thing with an electrical circuit- excite with a spark, record the ring-down.
 
Good point, Andy. Or perhaps an impulse or step from a function generator would also work.
If one doesn't have a function generator, just flipping on a switch from a DC source might even suffice.
 
Theoretically resonant frequency is obtained by using the following formula:
f=1 / sqr rt(L* C).
// assuming the value of r is very very small.
When the values are substituted, a frequency of nearly 32 KHz is obtained.
Varying the values of C will yield a different bandwidth. To obtain a frequency of 20 KHz; the frequency desired, a different capacitance value could be used.:wink:
 
Using 50 millihenrys and 20 nanofarads, I calculate w = 31,623 radians per sec, and f = 5033 Hz. The sqrt(L/C) impedance is 1581 ohms. Put the L and C in parallel, put a 100k resistor in series, and take a signal generator (sine wave ppreferred) and put it across the LC circuit plus resistor, put a high impedance voltmeter across the LC circuit, and run the frequency from manually from 100 Hz to 100 kilohertz. The volts across the LC circuit will rise when you near resonance. See attached pdf for frequency sweep
 

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