Confirming the Euler's Formula: e^{i(a+bx)}=

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The discussion revolves around Euler's formula and its implications in complex analysis, particularly focusing on the properties of the exponential function and logarithmic function in the context of complex numbers. Participants explore the relationships between these functions, their injectivity and bijectivity, and the concept of branch cuts in logarithms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks whether the expression e^{i(a+bx)} equals cos(a+bx) + i sin(a+bx), to which another confirms this is true.
  • A participant raises a question about the implications of setting x = pi in the expression e^{xi}, leading to confusion about the equality e^{i2Pi} = e^0.
  • Some participants propose that the exponential function is not a bijection over complex numbers, contrasting it with its behavior over real numbers.
  • Another participant suggests that the issue lies with the logarithmic function, which requires a branch cut to define properly, affecting the uniqueness of the logarithm's imaginary part.
  • There is a discussion about the periodic nature of the complex exponential function, likening it to the cosine function's behavior.
  • Several participants correct or refine earlier claims regarding the injectivity and bijectivity of the exponential function over complex numbers.

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Participants express differing views on the properties of the exponential function in the complex domain, particularly regarding injectivity and bijectivity. There is no consensus on the implications of these properties or the nature of the logarithmic function's branch cuts.

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Participants note that the exponential function's behavior in complex analysis differs significantly from its behavior in real analysis, particularly due to periodicity and the need for branch cuts in logarithmic definitions.

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This discussion may be useful for those interested in complex analysis, particularly students and practitioners exploring the properties of exponential and logarithmic functions in the complex plane.

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Is this true:

e^{i(a+bx)}=cos(a+bx)+i sin(a+bx) ?
 
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I know Daves question is answered, but instead of making a new thread I just ask another one here as it is somewhat related. Unfortunately I don't have a mathtype program so you'll have to imagine.
So if you have the e^xi expression and set x = pi, this will equal -1. Adding 2Pi equals 1. So far so good? But here comes what I don't understand. 1 can also be written e^0, so using logarithms we say: e^i2Pi = e^0 -> i2Pi = 0, but this can't be true as i2Pi = 6,28i. I got one possible solution from my math teacher but it did not quite tell me how it could equal 0. Anyone care to give an explenation a shot?
 
My best guess would be that the exponential function is not a bijection over the complex numbers, while it is so over the real numbers. That is, for real numbers,

e^x = e^y <=> x = y is true.

For complex numbers, it must be the case that

e^x = e^y <=> x = y is false.

This shouldn't be so surprising. For the real numbers, you can't say things like...

x^2 = y^2 <=> x = y
sin(x) = sin(y) <=> x = y
...

I suppose it's just an accident that you can't do that for the exponential function over complex numbers.
 
AUMathTutor said:
My best guess would be that the exponential function is not a bijection over the complex numbers, while it is so over the real numbers. That is, for real numbers,

e^x = e^y <=> x = y is true.

You mean injection.
 
Well, injection may be true too, but it's definitely not a bijection either.

I tend to talk in terms of bijection or not bijection. I usually don't delve into things like injectivity and surjectivity. I think that the exponential is neither bijective nor injective over the complex numbers... then again, what do I know?
 
You said exp was a bijection over the reals which it isn't. It's an injection, but not a bijection.
 
The problem is not with the exponential function, but with the logarithmic function. You need to define a branch cut to define the logarithmic function. This then means that the imaginary part of the Log of a complex number (the so called argument) is a unique number in some interval of length 2 pi.
 
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Yeah, what Count Ibis said:
Count Iblis said:
The problem is not with the exponential function, but with the logarithmic function. You need to define a branch cut to define the logarithmic function. This then means that the imaginary part of the Log of a complex number (the so called argument) is a unique number in some interval of length 2 pi.
For the less mathematically versed, this is a little like taking the square root of a number and having to remember that there are actually two roots (+/-). When you take the log of a complex number, there are (potentially) multiple correct results, so you have to specify which one you're choosing.

(At least, I think that's a correct statement; someone please correct me if it's not.)
 
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"You said exp was a bijection over the reals which it isn't. It's an injection, but not a bijection."

Oops. You're right. I guess that's the price you pay when you get too used to using the general terminology too often.
 
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The trouble is that the complex exponential function is periodic, so saying that e^x = e^y iff x=y for complex x and y is akin to saying that cos x = cos y iff x=y.
 

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