Conjugacy class with two elements in G implies that G is not simple

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The discussion revolves around a problem in group theory, specifically addressing the implications of a conjugacy class containing exactly two elements in a group G and its relation to the simplicity of G.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the properties of the centralizer of an element and its relationship to the size of the conjugacy class. Questions arise regarding the existence of a subgroup of index two and its implications for the normality of subgroups.

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Some participants have provided insights into the properties of subgroups and their indices, while others are exploring the necessary conditions for establishing a normal subgroup. The conversation reflects a mix of confirmations and clarifications without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There is an emphasis on the relationship between the size of the conjugacy class and the structure of the centralizer, which is critical to the discussion. The participants are navigating through assumptions about subgroup indices and normality within the context of group simplicity.

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Homework Statement


If some conjugacy class of an element in a group G contains precisely two elements, show that G cannot be a simple group.

The Attempt at a Solution


This question was longer, with two questions before this one which I could answer and which probably lead to the answer on this question.

I showed that for an element x in G the elements of G which commute with x, form a subgroup C(x) of G, called the centralizer. I also proved that the size of the conjugacy class of x is equal to the number of left cosets of C(x) in G. But now for the last question, I need a hint.
 
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What can you say about a subgroup of index 2?
 
rochfor1 said:
What can you say about a subgroup of index 2?
A subgroup H<G of index two is normal, since if you take x in G, H and xH partition G and H and Hx partition G, which gives Hx=xH, and H is normal. If I have a normal subgroup of index 2, that means that the order of this subgroup is half of the order of G, which cannot be {e} or G, unless G={e}. This is not the case, since a conjugacy class of G contains two distinct elements. Therefore H is a normal subgroup which is not {e} or all of G, hence G is not simple.

Is this correct? Thanks for helping me out in your free time!
 
But how do you know you have a subgroup of index two? Otherwise you are correct.
 
rochfor1 said:
But how do you know you have a subgroup of index two? Otherwise you are correct.
Because I proved earlier that the index of the centralizer C(x) is the same as the order of the conjugacy class of x, and C(x) is a subgroup.
Thanks thanks :)
 
Exactly, I figured you knew why, you just hadn't explicitly stated it. Don't thank me too much; I just gave a nudge in the right direction.
 

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