Connecting Op-Amps: Is Vcc- to Ground OK?

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Connecting the Vcc- pin of an op-amp to ground is acceptable when using a unity gain configuration with a +5V Vcc+ supply, provided that only positive voltages are required. However, standard op-amps like the LM741 and TL084 require headroom at their inputs and outputs, which means they cannot operate effectively with just a 5V to 0V range. For applications needing operation close to the voltage rails, users should consider rail-to-rail op-amps, which can be found from manufacturers like Maxim and National Semiconductor.

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Hello,

I am sure this is a dumb question, but I am not sure about the answer, so hopefully someone can help me.

I am using an op-amp in a unity gain configuration between a voltage divider and an Arduino development board. Now, I will be connecting the Vcc+ to +5V, but is it okay to connect the Vcc- pin to ground, or would this cause me any issues?

Thanks ina advance.

Seán
 
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Should be ok as long as all you need is positive voltages. Your output range will be ~5V to 0V.
 
Hello.

Thanks for the reply.

Yea, all I need is positive voltages. So, if it is okay to connect it up like that, I guess something else is screwing up my results.

Well, at least I have crossed one thing off my list.

Thanks again.

Seán
 
SMOF said:
Hello,

I am sure this is a dumb question, but I am not sure about the answer, so hopefully someone can help me.

I am using an op-amp in a unity gain configuration between a voltage divider and an Arduino development board. Now, I will be connecting the Vcc+ to +5V, but is it okay to connect the Vcc- pin to ground, or would this cause me any issues?

Thanks ina advance.

Seán

You need to use special opamps to run between just 5V and 0V. Simple jellybean opamps like the LM741 and TL084 need several volts of headroom at their inputs and outputs, with respect to the voltage rails. Check the datasheet for the opamp you plan to use.

There are more advanced CMOS opamps that can have their inputs and outputs operate near the rails. You can search at Maxim or National Semiconductor's websites to find some examples. Just look for "rail to rail opamp".
 
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Hello,

Thats great, thanks for that!

Seán
 

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