Connection between Monotone and One-to-one Functions

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between monotone functions and one-to-one (injective) functions. Participants explore whether the properties of monotonicity and injectiveness imply each other, particularly focusing on counterexamples and conditions under which these properties hold. The conversation includes theoretical considerations and examples from real analysis.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that if a function is monotone, then it is one-to-one, but they question the converse.
  • One participant provides a counterexample of a function that is injective but not monotone, specifically f(x) = 1/x for x ≠ 0.
  • Another participant asks whether any injective, continuous function must be strictly monotone, to which a later reply agrees.
  • There is a discussion about the continuity of a bijective and monotone function defined on closed and bounded intervals, but no definitive conclusions are reached.
  • Counterexamples are provided to illustrate that monotonicity does not guarantee continuity, with specific functions cited.
  • One participant notes that injective and continuous functions need not be monotonic unless certain conditions about the spaces involved are met.

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Participants express differing views on the implications of monotonicity and injectiveness, with no consensus reached on whether monotonicity guarantees continuity or vice versa. Multiple competing views remain regarding the conditions under which these properties hold.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on specific definitions and assumptions about the functions and spaces involved, such as continuity, injectiveness, and the nature of the intervals considered. The discussion does not resolve these dependencies.

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Hello,

I was curious about the following point. I know that if a function is monotone, then it is one to one (meaning for x1 != x2, then f(x1) != f(x2) ).

But what about the converse? I can't seem to think of a counter-example.
 
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How about [tex]f : \mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}[/tex] given by

[tex]f(x) = \left\{ \begin{array}{ll}<br /> 1/x & x \neq 0 \\<br /> 0 & x = 0<br /> \end{array} \right.[/tex]

It's injective, but not monotone (because it's not continuous ;) ).
 
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Thanks!

So, is that to say, that any injective, continuous function is strictly monotone?
 
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Correct.
 
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hadron23 said:
Thanks!

So, is that to say, that any injective, continuous function is strictly monotone?

If f is bijective and monotone with both its range and domain being a closed and bounded interval...then what can we say about the continuity of f ?
 
Bhatia said:
If f is bijective and monotone with both its range and domain being a closed and bounded interval...then what can we say about the continuity of f ?

This thread is 2 years old. I guess the OP already found it by now.
 
micromass said:
This thread is 2 years old. I guess the OP already found it by now.

Hello, Micromass

Thanks for your reply.

If f is injective and continuous then it is strictly monotone...that is clear

My question is : If f is montone then is f continuous ?
 
No, there are a lot of counterexamples, for example

[tex]f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}:x\rightarrow \left\{\begin{array}{c} x~\text{if}~x\leq 0\\ x+1~\text{if}~x>0\\ \end{array}\right.[/tex]

This is injective and strictly increasing, but not continuous. If f is required to be surjective however, then it will be continuous.

Hint: next time you may get a faster reply if you just start a new topic about it! :smile:
 
micromass said:
No, there are a lot of counterexamples, for example

[tex]f:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow\mathbb{R}:x\rightarrow \left\{\begin{array}{c} x~\text{if}~x\leq 0\\ x+1~\text{if}~x>0\\ \end{array}\right.[/tex]

This is injective and strictly increasing, but not continuous. If f is required to be surjective however, then it will be continuous.

Hint: next time you may get a faster reply if you just start a new topic about it! :smile:


Thanks for your help with an example. I appreciate it.

Thanks for yesterday's reply too.

Regards,
Bhatia
 
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A function which is injective and continuous need not be monotonic. E.g. f : R-{0} --> R defined by f(x) = 1/x is continuous and injective, but not monotonic.

If however f : A --> B is injective and continuous, A and B are totally ordered topological spaces and A is connected, then f will be monotonic. The key here is that R itself in the standard topology is connected, and so continuous injective functions f : R --> R will be monotonic.
 
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disregardthat said:
A function which is injective and continuous need not be monotonic. E.g. f : R-{0} --> R defined by f(x) = 1/x is continuous and injective, but not monotonic.

If however f : A --> B is injective and continuous, A and B are totally ordered topological spaces and A is connected, then f will be monotonic. The key here is that R itself in the standard topology is connected, and so continuous injective functions f : R --> R will be monotonic.

Thanks for the insight. I get what you mean now.
 

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