Conservation of Angular Momentum and Energy?

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The discussion centers on the conservation of angular momentum and the non-conservation of rotational kinetic energy in systems such as a merry-go-round. When a mass is added to the rim of a spinning merry-go-round, the rotational inertia increases, leading to a decrease in rotational velocity due to the conservation of angular momentum. However, the rotational kinetic energy decreases as well, indicating that energy is not conserved in this scenario. The kinetic energy lost is converted to heat, particularly in inelastic collisions.

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I've noticed in several of my problems involving conservation of momentum, that the rotational kinetic energy of a system is often not conserved.

Consider a merry-go-round spinning at a constant rate, until we drop a mass so that it lands on the rim of the merry-go-round. The rotational inertia increases, and due to conservation of angular momentum, the rotational velocity will decrease. But you can use whatever values you like, the rotational energy also decreases. I was trying to figure out where the difference goes. My first thought was that if the merry-go round were floating in space, moving the block onto it would impart a small amount of kinetic energy to the whole thing, and that might account for the difference. But you can change the initial speed of the block, and the difference in rotational energies doesn't change so long as we don't change the block's mass.

I can't explain where the rotational energy goes in the this example. And I'm sure I could come up with more of these angular momentum scenarios where rotational energy isn't conserved. What's going on?
 
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Opus_723 said:
I've noticed in several of my problems involving conservation of momentum, that the rotational kinetic energy of a system is often not conserved.


I can't explain where the rotational energy goes in the this example. And I'm sure I could come up with more of these angular momentum scenarios where rotational energy isn't conserved. What's going on?

It's not an elastic collision. The kinetic energy will be converted to heat.
 

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