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The problem involves a solid, uniform spherical ball rolling without slipping up a hill and subsequently falling off a cliff. The objective is to determine the distance from the cliff's foot where the ball lands and its velocity just before landing, utilizing conservation of energy principles and projectile motion analysis.

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  • The original poster outlines a method using conservation of energy to find the ball's velocity at the top of the cliff and then applies projectile motion to calculate the landing distance. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding initial conditions and the application of equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one providing a detailed attempt at a solution and another offering supportive feedback. There is an ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, particularly regarding the use of significant figures and the interpretation of the results.

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There are indications of potential assumptions regarding the rolling motion and the effects of gravity that are being discussed. The original poster's calculations involve specific values for height and initial velocity, which may influence the outcomes being debated.

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A solid, uniform spherical ball rolls without slipping up a hill. At the top of the hill it is moving horizontally, and then it goes over a vertical cliff. How far from the foot of the cliff does the ball land, and how fast is it moving before it lands.

Use conservation of energy to find the velocity of the ball at the top of the cliff. Then use projectile motion to find how far it falls. Use table to find moment of inertia of the ball.


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Welcome to PF lightonahill7!

What are your initial thoughts so far? We will guide you from where you are facing problem.

Delzac
 
Vo = 25 m/s
Please look over my solution to see if I am right.

h = 28 m
I = 2/5mr^2
w (omega) = v/r initital
wfinal = vfinal/r

Conservation of energy

1/2mvo^2 + 1/2Iw1^2 = mgh + 1/2mvfinal^2 + 1/2Iwfinal^2

This is equation one.

2 unknowns w (omega) and Vfinal

Rolling w/o slipping means that w= v/r

1/2Iw^2 = 1/2(2/5mr2)(v/r)2 = 1/5mv^2 - Equation 2

Substitue into equation 1 and solve for vfinal

1/2mvo^2 + 1/5mvo^2 = mgh + 1/2mv2^2 = 1/5mv2^2

7/10mv1^2 = mgh + 7/10mv2^2

v2^2 = (v1^2 - 10/7gh)^1/2

= [(25}^2 - 10/7(9.8)(28)]^1/2

= (233)^1/2

v2 = 15.26 m/s

Determine the time in the air?

y-component

Voy = 0

ay = 9.8 m/s^2

y-yo = 28 m/s

28 = voy + 1/2 ayt^2

t^2 = 28/4.9

t^2 = 5.71

t=2.39 s

x-component - distance from cliff

d = vfinal*t
= 15.26 m/s(2.39 s)
= 36.47 m

How fast is it moving before it lands?

vy = voy + ayt
= (9.8)(2.39)
= 23.42 m/s

vx = Vox = 15.3 s

v = [(23.4)^2 + (15.3)^2]
= (781.65)^1/2
= 27.96 m/s
 
hi lightonahill7!

(have an omega: ω and try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)

yes that's all ok :smile:

(though you should probably have less sig figs in the answers :wink:)
 

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