Conservation of energy question

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The discussion revolves around a conceptual question regarding the conservation of energy, specifically in a scenario involving two charged spheres, one fixed and one kicked away. The initial confusion stems from the idea that the final energy of the system is zero, which is clarified by stating that the correct equation is KE + PE = constant, not zero. The potential energy (PE) is defined as negative when considering the system's energy at infinity as zero. The escape velocity is determined by the relationship between kinetic energy (KE) and the potential energy at a given distance. Overall, the key takeaway is the understanding of how potential energy and kinetic energy interact in the context of conservation of energy.
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This is a conceptual question I've been thinking about dealing with conservation of energy.

For example, say you have two charged spheres, one positive and one negative. The positive one is glued in place while you kick the negative one away. How fast would you have to kick the negative one so that it won't come back?

I'm aware these types of problems are pretty simple. potential + kinetic = 0

What I don't understand is how the final energy of the system is zero. Where'd it go?

EDIT: Is it because the potential energy is negative, so the sum is zero initial energy also? That's a weird concept to me to be honest.
 
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hi aftershock! :smile:
aftershock said:
I'm aware these types of problems are pretty simple. potential + kinetic = 0

What I don't understand is how the final energy of the system is zero. Where'd it go?

i don't know where you got that equation from …

the correct equation is KE + PE = constant, not zero :confused:

in other words, KEi + PEi = KEf + PEf

if you define PE at ∞ to be zero, then PE at distance r is minus kqQ/r, so escape velocity (defined as the speed that you need to reach infinity at speed zero) is the speed corresponding to KE = kqQ/r :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
hi aftershock! :smile:


i don't know where you got that equation from …

the correct equation is KE + PE = constant, not zero :confused:

in other words, KEi + PEi = KEf + PEf

if you define PE at ∞ to be zero, then PE at distance r is minus kqQ/r, so escape velocity (defined as the speed that you need to reach infinity at speed zero) is the speed corresponding to KE = kqQ/r :wink:

Yeah I meant in this particular problem the constant is 0. If we define PE to be 0 at ∞ like you said.

Not that it is always equal zero, of course I know that's not true.

Thanks for the reply!
 
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