Conservation of energy with a mass and pulley system.

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The problem involves a mass and pulley system where two boxes of different masses are connected by a rope over a frictionless pulley. The scenario describes the initial conditions of the system, including the heights and masses of the boxes, and asks for the speed of one box when it reaches the floor, using the principle of conservation of energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of conservation of energy by equating initial and final energies. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the initial and final energy states of the system. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of energy equations, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or the accuracy of the initial assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are questioning the accuracy of the initial equations and assumptions made regarding the forces acting on the masses. The problem setup includes specific masses and heights, which may influence the calculations and interpretations being discussed.

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Homework Statement


Two boxes are attached to opposite ends of a rope passing over a frictionless pulley as shown below. The mass of Box A is 15kg and the mass of box B is 12kg. The system is originally at rest with the bottom of box A at a height of o.85m above the floor. When the system is released, the boxes will move. Use conservation of energy to determine the speed with which Box A will contact the floor.


Homework Equations



Eg=mgΔh
Ek= 1/2 mv^2/2
ƩFy=may

The Attempt at a Solution


I started off by drawing free body diagrams of each mass, one at rest, and one in motion.

For mass A:
at rest,
ƩFy=0
Ft+Eg=0
Ft= Eg
= mgΔh
=(15kg)(9.8m/s^2)(0.85m)
Ft=125N

in motion,
ƩFy= may
Fg(A)-Ft= m(A)ay

For mass B:
at rest,
ƩFy=0
Fn-mg=0
Fn=mg
=(12kg)(9.8m/s^2)
Fn=117.6N

in motion,
ƩFy=may
Ft-Fg(B)= m(B)ay

I'm not sure if my original statement of Ft=Eg is accurate... and from this point on I don't know where to go.
 
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Why not find the initial and final energies and equate them?
 
As in, Etotal= Eg, Etotal'=Ek ?
 
System is originally at rest. Hence initial energy = ...
Final energy = ...
 

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