Conservation of Momentum - BOMB EXPLOSION question

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the conservation of momentum in the context of a bomb explosion in space. Participants are analyzing statements related to kinetic energy and momentum conservation following the explosion of a stationary bomb.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to clarify the implications of the bomb being stationary before the explosion and how this affects the kinetic energy and momentum of the fragments afterward. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of zero velocity and the conditions under which kinetic energy is considered.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem statements. Some have provided insights into the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy, while others express confusion about the implications of the bomb's initial state and the behavior of the fragments post-explosion.

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There is a focus on the definitions of kinetic energy and momentum in the context of an explosion, with participants questioning the assumptions made about the fragments' velocities and the nature of the explosion in a zero-gravity environment.

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Homework Statement



QUESTION 1 :A stationary bomb explodes in space breaking into a number of small fragments. At the location of the explosion, the net force do to gravity is 0 Newtons. Which one of the following statements concerning the event is true?
a) Kinetic energy is conserved in the process
b) The fragments must have equal kinetic energies
c) The sum of the KE's of the fragments must be 0
d) The vector sum of the linear momenta of the fragments must be zero
e) The velocity of anyone fragment must be equal to the velocity of any other fragment

Homework Equations


mv (before) = mv (after)

The Attempt at a Solution


a) mv (before) = mv (after), velocity before is 0 and velocity after is 0 therefore, the KE is NOT conserved
b) there is NO KE as the bomb was stationary so it was zero velocity
c) KE must always be positive so it can NOT be 0
d) YES
e) The velocities of these fragments are zero, therefore the velocity of one fragment can be equal to other fragment so I don't understand this question
 
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gcombina said:
a) mv (before) = mv (after), velocity before is 0 and velocity after is 0
The velocity of what is zero after? There are many independently moving fragments.
If you mean the average velocity (weighted according to mass), you can't use that for finding the KE of an ensemble.
 
haruspex said:
The velocity of what is zero after? There are many independently moving fragments.
If you mean the average velocity (weighted according to mass), you can't use that for finding the KE of an ensemble.

I thought that because it said "stationary bomb" then the velocity was zero before it exploted
 
gcombina said:
I thought that because it said "stationary bomb" then the velocity was zero before it exploted
Sure, but you wrote that it is also zero afterwards.
 
haruspex said:
Sure, but you wrote that it is also zero afterwards.

right cause the conservation of momentum, am I right? velocity is zero before and its zero after
 
gcombina said:
right cause the conservation of momentum, am I right? velocity is zero before and its zero after
The momentum is zero before and after, but in the after condition the mass is made of many small parts. You can only use ##\frac 12 mv^2## for KE when the m is a rigid body (and you would have to add in rotational energy too. If it is an ensemble then you must sum the energies over the rigid components.
 
haruspex said:
The momentum is zero before and after, but in the after condition the mass is made of many small parts. You can only use ##\frac 12 mv^2## for KE when the m is a rigid body (and you would have to add in rotational energy too. If it is an ensemble then you must sum the energies over the rigid components.
wow, i don't understand you. Which option are you trying to explain to me? option a) or option e)?
 
gcombina said:
wow, i don't understand you. Which option are you trying to explain to me? option a) or option e)?
It relates to your reasoning on all except d), but does not necessarily change your answer. For instance, in a) you got the right answer, that KE is not conserved, despite apparently reasoning that it would be.
 
gcombina said:
I assume that the bomb explodes and the parts fly and then remain on the ground
What ground? The question only concerns the instants before and after the explosion.
 

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