Constructing a Valid Coordinate System for Local Flatness in General Relativity

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The discussion revolves around the concept of constructing a valid coordinate system for local flatness in general relativity, specifically focusing on the derivation of the 'local flatness' result as presented in Bernard F. Schutz's text. Participants explore the mathematical framework and implications of the local flatness theorem, including the conditions for the metric tensor in a chosen coordinate system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding Schutz's derivation of local flatness and outlines the conditions that must be satisfied for the metric tensor in a new coordinate system.
  • The same participant attempts to construct a coordinate system by proposing to set second and higher derivatives of the inverse transformation matrix to zero, raising questions about the validity of this approach.
  • Concerns are raised about ensuring that the rows of the Jacobian matrix can be defined as gradients of scalar fields, with a noted difficulty in proving path independence of integrals defined by these rows.
  • Another participant suggests looking into "normal coordinates" or "geodesic coordinates" as a potential avenue for understanding the proof, referencing external sources for further reading.
  • Additional references to literature by Lee and a monograph by Chern, Chen, and Lam are provided as resources that may clarify the topic.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the proposed construction of the coordinate system or the assumptions involved. Multiple viewpoints and references are shared, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

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The discussion highlights limitations in the assumptions made regarding the choice of components in the Jacobian matrix and the implications for defining a valid coordinate system. The path independence of integrals related to the gradients remains an open question.

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Hello all

I am trying to teach myself general relativity and am working through the text 'a first course in general relativity' by Bernard F Schutz. So far I have made slow but consistent progress but I am perplexed by his derivation of the ‘local flatness’ result. This says that for any point P on a four-dimensional differentiable manifold M with metric tensor field g there exists a coordinate system \tilde{C} on an open neighbourhood U of P such that the component representation g_{\tilde{\alpha}\tilde{\eta}} of g under the coordinate basis O_{\tilde{C}} for T_PM satisfies:

1. g_{\tilde{\alpha}\tilde{\eta}}|_P = -1\ if\ \tilde{\alpha}=\tilde{\eta}=0,\ 1\ if\ \tilde{\alpha}=\tilde{\eta}>0,\ otherwise\ 0
2. g_{\tilde{\alpha}\tilde{\eta}},_{\tilde{\gamma}}|_P = 0\ for\ all\ \tilde{\alpha},\tilde{\eta},\tilde{\gamma}\ in\ \{0,1,2,3\}

Schutz’s proof proceeds by considering an existing coordinate system C on U and a new coordinate system \tilde{C} (also defined on U) and the field of the Jacobian matrix field \Lambda of the coordinate transformation function \psi = \tilde{C} \circ C^{-1}. He shows that the first two terms of the Taylor series for g_{\tilde{\alpha}\tilde{\eta}}|_Q under basis O_{\tilde{C}} (for Q in U) depend on \Lambda^\alpha_{\tilde{\eta}}|_P and \Lambda^\alpha_{\tilde{\eta}},_{\tilde{\gamma}}|_P, and that there are sufficient independent components of these two arrays that they can be chosen in such a way as to satsfy 1 and 2.

Schutz gives up at this point and leaves the reader to fend for himself.

My attempt to complete the proof (ie construct a coordinate system \tilde{C} with the required properties) is as follows:

First, note that the matrix of which we are choosing components is actually that of the inverse transformation \psi^{-1} = C \circ \tilde{C}^{-1}, because the tildes are over the lower indices rather than the upper indices (although that's not so easy to see in this Tex system, which looks very fuzzy on my computer!). Let us choose all components of second and higher derivatives of the inverse matrix to be zero everywhere on U. This gives us a matrix field on U, which we call \Lambda^{-1} and the (matrix multiplicative) inverse of that field is another matrix field \Lambda on U. If each row of \Lambda is the gradient of a scalar field on U then \Lambda is a Jacobian and uniquely defines a coordinate system \tilde{C} on U, up to translation.
But how can we be sure that each row is the gradient of a scalar field? We didn’t define the rows as gradients or one-forms, in fact they were chosen in a fairly arbitrary fashion, just in order to satisfy the unrelated conditions 1 and 2.

We can try defining a scalar field at a point X in C(U) as the integral of a row of \Lambda along a path starting at C(P) and ending at X. But that integral is only well-defined if it is path-independent, and the only helpful theorem I can find is one that says that if you integrate a vector field that is the gradient of a scalar field then it’s path independent. ie you need to assume the conclusion in order to prove it!

So how can we show that the matrix field chosen to satisfy 1 and 2 leads to a valid, well-defined coordinate system \tilde{C}?

Thanks very much for any help anybody can provide with this.
 
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I would suggest that you look for the term "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_coordinates" " or "geodesic coordinates". The monograph by Chern, Chen and Lam quoted in Wikipedia has a proof.
 
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Lee covers Riemannian normal coordinates pretty well, I think.
 
Thanks for the refs to Lee and to Chern Chen and Lam. I will look them up and follow the proofs in there.
 

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