Continuity Calc Help: Proving f(x,y) is Continuous

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The problem involves analyzing the continuity of the function f(x,y) defined piecewise, with f(x,y) = 2 for points inside the unit circle and f(x,y) = 0 for points outside. The original poster seeks to demonstrate that f is not continuous at points on the boundary of the unit circle and is continuous elsewhere.

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  • Participants discuss the definition of continuity and its application to the function, questioning how to approach the boundary case and the implications of the function's values in relation to epsilon-delta definitions.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring the implications of the function's behavior at the boundary and considering how to apply the epsilon-delta definition of continuity. Some guidance has been provided regarding the nature of the values within a neighborhood of the boundary points.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the implications of the function's definition at the boundary of the unit circle, and participants are considering the requirements for continuity in the context of the problem's constraints.

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Homework Statement



Let f(x,y) = { 2 if x^{2}+y^{2} < 1 , and 0 otherwise

Using the definition of continuity to show that:

(a) f is not continuous at each point (x_{0},y_{0}) such that x^{2}_{0} = y^{2}_{0} = 1

(b) f is continuous at all other points (x_{0},y_{0}) in the plane

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I know the definition of continuity, but are you supposed to take some epsilon for the case in (a) and (b), and just show the normal definition or is the question asking something I'm not seeing.
 
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I'm assuming you mean in a) that x_0^2 + y_0^2 = 1.

Well, think about what the function is. You have f(x) = 2 inside the unit circle and 0 elsewhere. The definition of continuity (that is, the English interpretation of delta-epsilon) is that a function f is continuous at x if, given an arbitrary number epsilon > 0, you can find a ball around x such that all numbers in the ball have value which differs from the value of f at x by less than epsilon. So since strictly outside the ball it's 0 and inside the ball it's 2, it's obvious that we can always find a ball in which all values are arbitrarily close to 2 or 0 (since the function is constant, and the sets are open, so just take any ball contained in these respective sets). But why does this break down at x_0^2 + y_0^2 = 1? In fact, what IS the set x_0^2 + y_0^2 = 1? Think about it.
 


Well it is the boundary of the unit circle. On the boundary f(x) = 0, is that why it isn't continuous??
 


phreak said:
The definition of continuity (that is, the English interpretation of delta-epsilon) is that a function f is continuous at x if, given an arbitrary number epsilon > 0, you can find a ball around x such that all numbers in the ball have value which differs from the value of f at x by less than epsilon. .

Interesting definition!

Edit: Do we really need a ball with radius epsilon here phreak? if z=f(x,y) isn't z supposed to be linear here? so basically if

\lim_{(x,y)\rightarrow\ (a,b)}f(x,y)=f(a,b)

Then this means that:

\forall \epsilon&gt;0,\exists D_{\delta} such that (D-a circle with radius delta)


|f(x,y)-f(a,b)|&lt;\epsilon whenever

\sqrt{(x-a)^2+(y-b)^2}&lt;\delta

Here it means that anytime the points (x,y) are within the circle centered at (a,b) with radius delta, the values of the function z=f(x,y) will lie between the parallel planes

z=f(a,b)-\epsilon, z=f(a,b)+\epsilon
 
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O wait, for (a) is it not continuous because taking some ball around the boundary you get two different values for the function in that one ball, and given some epsilon the values in the ball might differ from x by a value greater than epsilon. Does that have any relevance??
 


You're definitely on the right track. The value of each boundary point is 0. So by definition, if f is continuous at any particular boundary point, we should be able to find a circle (in R^2) around it so that the value of each point in the circle differs from 0 by an arbitrarily small amount (which is what epsilon represents). For instance, take epsilon = 1/2. Can we find a circle around a boundary point such that all points in the circle have values between -1/2 and 1/2?
 


And the answer would be no, because all points in the circle are strictly 2. Thanks for the help. Didn't even think to look at open balls in a plane. I'll use the same notions to show (b) as well, thanks.
 

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