Control Theory -- Systems where the controller also changes with time

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This discussion focuses on the exploration of control systems where the controller's input, represented as ##\dot{u}##, changes over time. The participants highlight the lack of coverage of this concept in traditional Control Theory courses, particularly in relation to Linear Time-Invariant (LTI) systems. The conversation suggests that incorporating the derivative of the control input could lead to new insights, especially when considering the "D" component of a PID controller. A practical example, such as an RC High-Pass Filter (HPF), is recommended for better understanding.

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  • Understanding of Ordinary Differential Equations (ODEs)
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  • Knowledge of PID controller components, particularly the derivative (D) term
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Usually we look at a system of ODEs of the form:
$$\dot{x}=f(x,u,t)$$
$$y=g(x,u,t)$$

Why not look at systems where the controller also changes with time, i,e functions of terms ##\dot{u}##?

I took quite a handful of Control Theory courses and yet as of yet never seen one incorporating this derivative.

Perhaps it's impractical, my pure side of me doesn't really care though... :oldbiggrin:
 
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I assume you are referring to LTI systems? Because you can construct all kinds of weird #$@! otherwise.

In the very sloppiest, hand wavy way (because it's late here and it's been a long time since I did this stuff for real), you will end up with a state variable that represents the effect of ##\dot u##, if it matters to the output ##y##.

Consider the "D" part of a PID controller:
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=9933758

Maybe try a simple example, like an RC HPF (in the EE context)? This stuff is often clearer when you work through a simple case.
 
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