Controlling light diffraction angle with a holographic "lens"

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The discussion revolves around methods to control the exit angle of monochromatic light using holographic techniques, specifically focusing on the creation of a "holographic lens" or diffractive optical element (DOE). Participants explore various approaches, including the use of holographic film, spatial light modulators, and diffraction gratings, while seeking resources and techniques for recording and exposing diffraction patterns.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the feasibility of controlling the diffraction angle of light using a holographic lens and seeks resources for recording diffraction patterns.
  • Another participant suggests that creating a diffractive optical element (DOE) with holographic film is a potential method.
  • Some participants discuss the possibility of using a spatial light modulator to achieve the desired control over light diffraction.
  • There is a suggestion to create a basic diffraction grating photographically using Young's slits, with emphasis on the need for precise slit spacing.
  • One participant proposes dividing an optical element into a grid, where each segment would diffract light at unique angles, akin to a complex arrangement of mirrors.
  • Concerns are raised about the power loss associated with using a zone plate as a lens.
  • Participants explore the practicality of using mirrors and servo motors for beam steering, while also considering weight and power limitations for their applications.
  • Resources are shared, including links to software and literature related to computer-generated holography and spatial light modulators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of ideas and approaches, with no clear consensus on the best method to achieve the desired control over light diffraction. Multiple competing views and techniques are presented, indicating an unresolved discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of high-resolution film and stable optics for successful holography, as well as the need for precise control over slit dimensions in diffraction gratings. The discussion also highlights the potential complexity of implementing various optical elements.

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I'm a physics student, and working on a class project that requires coming up with a method to control
the exit angle (diffraction angle) of a monochromatic light source.

For example, taking a laser (monochromatic, coherent light source), spreading the beam, and directing the light at a piece of holographic film. Then, depending on how the original "hologram" or diffraction grating was recorded or encoded, determining the direction of the transmitted light. Basically, I'm trying to create a "holographic lens" of sorts.

Is this possible? and what resources would you recommend in figuring out how to expose or record the diffraction pattern?

Thanks for any info in advance!
 

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I guess the question is, how could I make a diffractive optical element (DOE), and is it possible to do this with holographic film?
 
Mike Gaffer said:
I guess the question is, how could I make a diffractive optical element (DOE), and is it possible to do this with holographic film?

I suspect you could do this with a spatial light modulator.

https://www.meadowlark.com/spatial_light_modulators.php
 
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When you say 'control', do you mean variable control or just deflect by a given angle?
Your two diagrams seem to suggest that a diffraction grating could do the job. You can make a basic diffraction grating photographically using Young's slits (just one half of the pattern will have equal spaced maxima). You can work out the slit spacing for a given grating pitch and the slit spacing will need to be wider than for a normal Young's demo because the grating needs to be finer than you can easily see.
I don't know the present state of the art with home-made holography but I do know that the optics and the supports need to be held pretty steady and the film needs to be high res. (Those comments apply whatever your final solution is.)
PS the slits will need to be very narrow (as near omnidirectional patterns as possible) if you want the grating to have many maxima of 'equal' amplitude.
 
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arydberg said:
Ah yes - the Zone Plate works like a convex lens. I was well impressed with that when I first came across it. (But I had forgotten the name so I couldn't look it up :headbang: )
 
How rapidly do you need to steer the beam ? Plane or volume ??

D'uh, how about a mirror plus $10 servo-motor per DOF ? Provided the angle is modest, internal reflection via an optical-grade prism may be easier than keeping a small, front-surface mirror clean.

You'll find ample Arduino etc source-code on-line. Trouble-shoot / demonstrate your rig with a budget 'servo tester'...

Don't laugh-- One of my friends built such a 'micro-disco FX' as a cat-toy...
 
sophiecentaur said:
Ah yes - the Zone Plate works like a convex lens. I was well impressed with that when I first came across it. (But I had forgotten the name so I couldn't look it up :headbang: )
But I think the zone plate loses half the power.
 
Andy Resnick said:
I suspect you could do this with a spatial light modulator.

https://www.meadowlark.com/spatial_light_modulators.php
I'm not familiar with spatial light modulators, other than having seen the term before... is this the type of module that is being used to generate true holograms in real time with massive amounts of computer data being fed into them? Would you know any place to start on _how_ I would use one?
 
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sophiecentaur said:
When you say 'control', do you mean variable control or just deflect by a given angle?
Your two diagrams seem to suggest that a diffraction grating could do the job. You can make a basic diffraction grating photographically using Young's slits (just one half of the pattern will have equal spaced maxima). You can work out the slit spacing for a given grating pitch and the slit spacing will need to be wider than for a normal Young's demo because the grating needs to be finer than you can easily see.
I don't know the present state of the art with home-made holography but I do know that the optics and the supports need to be held pretty steady and the film needs to be high res. (Those comments apply whatever your final solution is.)
PS the slits will need to be very narrow (as near omnidirectional patterns as possible) if you want the grating to have many maxima of 'equal' amplitude.

By _control_, I was looking at dividing an optical element, whether it be holographic film, or something else, into a grid; having each segment of the grid diffract a beam that is directed at it, at a unique output angle, and be able to calculate the output angle predictably. Then, be able to make this optical element so that I can have for example, square grid on the element (col 1, row 1) redirect light at 15 degrees, col 1, row 2 at 30degrees, col 2, row 1 at -10 degrees, etc... almost like a complex arrangement of little mirrors.
 
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tech99 said:
But I think the zone plate loses half the power.
Very interesting! Will look into this further.
 
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Nik_2213 said:
How rapidly do you need to steer the beam ? Plane or volume ??

D'uh, how about a mirror plus $10 servo-motor per DOF ? Provided the angle is modest, internal reflection via an optical-grade prism may be easier than keeping a small, front-surface mirror clean.

You'll find ample Arduino etc source-code on-line. Trouble-shoot / demonstrate your rig with a budget 'servo tester'...

Don't laugh-- One of my friends built such a 'micro-disco FX' as a cat-toy...
The angle, once determined, won't need to change. But I need to have potentially hundreds of different angle "quadrants" or areas on the element that would each need to be "steered" uniquely. Also weight, power, and potentially production type quantities would make the motor not applicable for this application - but otherwise good idea! Thanks
 
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sophiecentaur said:
When you say 'control', do you mean variable control or just deflect by a given angle?
Your two diagrams seem to suggest that a diffraction grating could do the job. You can make a basic diffraction grating photographically using Young's slits (just one half of the pattern will have equal spaced maxima). You can work out the slit spacing for a given grating pitch and the slit spacing will need to be wider than for a normal Young's demo because the grating needs to be finer than you can easily see.
I don't know the present state of the art with home-made holography but I do know that the optics and the supports need to be held pretty steady and the film needs to be high res. (Those comments apply whatever your final solution is.)
PS the slits will need to be very narrow (as near omnidirectional patterns as possible) if you want the grating to have many maxima of 'equal' amplitude.
By "control" I mean, divide a piece of film into a grid of for example, 100 columns, and 100 rows, and have each square of the grid cause a beam impacting it to be "steered" at a different output angle... almost like a piece of engineered bumpy glass.
 
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Mike Gaffer said:
I'm not familiar with spatial light modulators, other than having seen the term before... is this the type of module that is being used to generate true holograms in real time with massive amounts of computer data being fed into them? Would you know any place to start on _how_ I would use one?

I don't know your level of expertise, but:

https://www.hamamatsu.com/resources/pdf/ssd/e12_handbook_lcos_slm.pdf
http://spie.org/Publications/Book/2281295?SSO=1
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1708.02485.pdf
 
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Mike Gaffer said:
By "control" I mean, divide a piece of film into a grid of for example, 100 columns, and 100 rows, and have each square of the grid cause a beam impacting it to be "steered" at a different output angle... almost like a piece of engineered bumpy glass.
That sounds more and more like a diffraction grating. It seems that you don't envisage actually steering a beam (?). A diffraction grating will give beams at different angles at the same time, according to a simple rule. Your idea of using a hologram would be fairly straightforward. If you use multiple (split) beams of laser light - at the angles you will want, finally, they will interfere at the surface of your film and produce a hologram. This hologram will produce beams at the same angles when illuminated with a plane wave. It's actually a simpler thing to visualise (IMO) than what happens when a hologram is produced by shining laser light at a complicated object.
If you want to steer the beam, the methods suggested by @Andy Resnick are cool - but several stages in advance of the simple system you seem to be suggesting.

This idea is not the best because the hologram can occupy the whole of the film slide and each part of it will contribute to each output beam. That's how holograms work and the beams would be sharper because the 'aperture' would be wider and I think the beams would be brighter.
 

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