Convergence of Integral with Real and Imaginary Parameters

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the evaluation of a specific integral involving real variables x and s, particularly focusing on the convergence and techniques for solving it. Participants explore various methods including integration by parts, variable substitution, and contour integration, while addressing the challenges posed by the integrand's structure and behavior under complex analysis.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the integral and seeks assistance for its evaluation, particularly for s > 0.
  • Another participant suggests that the original poster should demonstrate some attempt at solving the integral.
  • A participant describes their attempts using integration by parts and variable substitution, noting challenges with the exponential term and branch cuts.
  • There is a suggestion to use contour integration, although one participant expresses skepticism about the existence of a closed form solution.
  • Another participant mentions that Mathematica could not provide an antiderivative for the integrand, but the definite integral might still be computable using complex analysis.
  • One participant expands the exponential and interchanges summation and integration, leading to a series representation, but expresses uncertainty about handling the resulting integrals.
  • Concerns are raised about the behavior of the exponential function when imaginary numbers are introduced, with suggestions to modify the approach to maintain convergence.
  • Another participant points out that the integral diverges for the n=0 term in the power series expansion, despite the overall integral being strongly convergent for s > 0.
  • There is a proposal that the integral may converge for all real s by introducing a small positive imaginary part to s, although this remains unproven.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the methods for evaluating the integral, with no consensus on a definitive approach or solution. Disagreements exist regarding the applicability of contour integration and the behavior of the exponential function under complex arguments.

Contextual Notes

Participants note limitations regarding the convergence of specific terms in the power series expansion and the challenges posed by the integrand's structure, particularly when considering complex variables.

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The integral given below is to be computed as a function of real variables x and s. Even a partial answer only for s>0 is very useful. Here is the integral:

$$\int_{0}^{\infty}{dk \frac{k^2 e^{-k^2 x^2}}{(k^2 + s)^{3/2}}}$$

Thank you for your help.
 
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You should show some attempt at solving it.
 
I tried integration by parts to isolate the exponential in a definite integral; that did not work. I also tried to change variables from k to z, with k=sqrt(s) * tan(z), which greatly simplifies the expression and gets rid of the nasty square root, but this time I have a trigonometric exponential to integrate with. I also noted that the integrand is an even function of k, and the integral can be expanded to be on the entire real axis. I tried doing the new integral as a Contour integral, but again it did not work on account of the exponential term and also on account of the nasty branch cut from the square root.
 
Hi. Mathematica does not know a general integral, so maybe you should look somewhere else. How about doing the old integral as a contour integral?
 
Do you have a reason to think that it has a closed form solution?
 
What I meant that Mathematica could not give an antiderivative for this integrand, but the definite integral still may be calculatable using complex analysis.
 
I expanded the exponential and then interchanged the order of summation and integration, and I got:
$$
\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n}}{n!} \int_{0}^\infty \frac{k^{2n+2}}{(k^2+s)^{\frac 3 2}} dk
$$
But I'm not sure how to deal with the integrals!
As you can see, its an even function of k so maybe it can be contour integrated but I have problem with it.
 
I'm not sure. I think the problem is that the exponential explodes when you insert imaginary numbers. Maybe you could try not countour-integrating ## \exp(-z^2 x^2) ## but ## \exp(-|z|^2 x^2) ##. On the real axis, which is the part you are interested in, it should not matter.
 
I think the e-k2x2 needs to stay inside the integration to make it converge.
 
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DarthMatter said:
I'm not sure. I think the problem is that the exponential explodes when you insert imaginary numbers. Maybe you could try not countour-integrating ## \exp(-z^2 x^2) ## but ## \exp(-|z|^2 x^2) ##. On the real axis, which is the part you are interested in, it should not matter.
But I think ## \exp(-|z|^2 x^2) ## will not be an analytic function, so the contour integration would not be valid.
 
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Probably. But maybe a better analytic function can be found.
 
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Shyan said:
I expanded the exponential and then interchanged the order of summation and integration, and I got:
$$
\sum_{n=0}^\infty \frac{(-1)^n x^{2n}}{n!} \int_{0}^\infty \frac{k^{2n+2}}{(k^2+s)^{\frac 3 2}} dk
$$
But I'm not sure how to deal with the integrals!
As you can see, its an even function of k so maybe it can be contour integrated but I have problem with it.

I am happy to get an answer in terms of a power series if a closed form answer cannot be found. However, the power series you suggested has a problem for n=0 term in the series. For n=0, the integral:
$$
\int_{0}^\infty \frac{k^{2n+2}}{(k^2+s)^{\frac 3 2}} dk
$$
does not converge. This sort of divergence can happen when you expand the integrand in power series, even when the whole integral is strongly convergent. The integral I am trying to evaluate is strongly convergent for s > 0 (That's easy to prove). In fact, it is likely to be convergent for all Real s, by allowing the variable 's' to acquire a small positive imaginary part, and taking the limit that the imaginary part goes to zero after integration. (But that's much harder to prove. It feels intuitively right, but I have no proof yet for s<=0.)
 

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