Convergence of Series: Dyadic Criterion for Series Involving Logs

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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence of two series involving logarithmic functions: \(\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{n^{\ln(n)}}{\ln(n)^{n}}\) and \(\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{1}{(\ln(n))^{\ln(n)}}\). Participants are exploring various convergence tests, particularly focusing on the Dyadic Criterion and the Root Test.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the Dyadic Criterion and express confusion regarding its complexity when applied to logarithmic series. There are attempts to use the Root Test, with questions about taking the limit superior of the resulting expressions.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested using the Root Test and have attempted to manipulate the expressions derived from it. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of these tests, but no consensus has been reached on the convergence of the series.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraint of not using the Integral Test and are considering various convergence tests, while also grappling with the complexity introduced by logarithmic terms in the series.

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Homework Statement



"Determine whether the following series converge:

[itex]\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{n^{ln (n)}}{ln(n)^{n}}[/itex]

and

[itex]\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{1}{(ln(n))^{ln(n)}}[/itex]

Homework Equations



The convergence/divergence tests (EXCEPT INTEGRAL TEST):

Ratio
Dyadic
Comparison
P-test
Cauchy Criterion
Root Criterion
Alternating Series Test/Leibniz Criterion
Abel's Criterion

The Attempt at a Solution



My TA said it was helpful to use the Dyadic Criterion to solve series involving logs... I believe this is an exception. It made the equation really convoluted:

[itex]\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{2^{2k}*k*ln(2)}{(k*ln(2))^{2^{k}}}[/itex]

I'm sure I have to use some combination of the tests, but I kind of need to be pointed in the right direction... I have no idea how to work with that series..

Thank you!
 
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limddavid said:

Homework Statement



"Determine whether the following series converge:

[itex]\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{n^{ln (n)}}{ln(n)^{n}}[/itex]

and

[itex]\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{1}{(ln(n))^{ln(n)}}[/itex]

Homework Equations



The convergence/divergence tests (EXCEPT INTEGRAL TEST):

Ratio
Dyadic
Comparison
P-test
Cauchy Criterion
Root Criterion
Alternating Series Test/Leibniz Criterion
Abel's Criterion

The Attempt at a Solution



My TA said it was helpful to use the Dyadic Criterion to solve series involving logs... I believe this is an exception. It made the equation really convoluted:

[itex]\sum_{n \geq 2} \frac{2^{2k}*k*ln(2)}{(k*ln(2))^{2^{k}}}[/itex]

I'm sure I have to use some combination of the tests, but I kind of need to be pointed in the right direction... I have no idea how to work with that series..

Thank you!

Try the root test; C=lim{n->inf} sup n^(ln(n)/n)/ln(n). Then Let u=ln(n) and substitute this into the root test. Answer should converge to C=0. So the series converges absolutely.
 
shaon0 said:
Try the root test; C=lim{n->inf} sup n^(ln(n)/n)/ln(n). Then Let u=ln(n) and substitute this into the root test. Answer should converge to C=0. So the series converges absolutely.

Ok.. I tried to root test, but I'm not sure how I can take the limsup of what I get:

n^(u/n)/u
 
limddavid said:
Ok.. I tried to root test, but I'm not sure how I can take the limsup of what I get:

n^(u/n)/u

u=ln(n) → eu2e-u/u and so you get convergence to 0.
 

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