Convergence Proofs for Sequences: How Do Limits and Converse Statements Work?

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The discussion revolves around convergence proofs for sequences, specifically addressing the limits of certain sequences and the implications of their convergence properties. The subject area includes real analysis and the behavior of sequences as they approach limits.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore various methods to prove that the sequence sqrt(n+1) - sqrt(n) converges to 0, with suggestions to manipulate the expression for clarity. Questions arise regarding the implications of limits for subsequences and whether the converse statements hold true.

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Some participants have offered guidance on manipulating the sequence to facilitate proof, while others question the wording of the problem regarding convergence to A. The discussion reflects a mix of attempts to clarify definitions and explore the nature of convergence without reaching a consensus.

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Participants express uncertainty about specific mathematical manipulations and the definitions involved in convergence. There is also a note that new problems should not be introduced in existing threads, indicating a focus on maintaining topic relevance.

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Homework Statement


1. Prove that the sequence sqrt(n+1) - sqrt(n) converges to 0.
2. If sequence {an} is composed of real numbers and if lim as n goes to infinity of {a2n} = A and the limit as n goes to infinity of {a(2n-1)} = A, prove that {an} converges to 1. Is converse true?
3. Consider sequences {an} and {bn}, where bn = (an)^(1/n)
a. If {bn} converges to 1, does the sequence {an} necessarily converge?
b. If {bn} converges to 1, does the sequence {an} necessarily diverge?
c. does {bn} have to converge 1?


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure if I can divide sqrt(n) by sqrt(n) and prove that this new sequence goes to 1 without a loss of generality. As for the others, I am new to these proofs and any help would be much appreciated.
 
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WTBash said:

Homework Statement


1. Prove that the sequence sqrt(n+1) - sqrt(n) converges to 0.
2. If sequence {an} is composed of real numbers and if lim as n goes to infinity of {a2n} = A and the limit as n goes to infinity of {a(2n-1)} = A, prove that {an} converges to 1. Is converse true?
3. Consider sequences {an} and {bn}, where bn = (an)^(1/n)
a. If {bn} converges to 1, does the sequence {an} necessarily converge?
b. If {bn} converges to 1, does the sequence {an} necessarily diverge?
c. does {bn} have to converge 1?


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure if I can divide sqrt(n) by sqrt(n) and prove that this new sequence goes to 1 without a loss of generality. As for the others, I am new to these proofs and any help would be much appreciated.
1. Certainly you can divide sqrt(n) by itself, as long as n is not 0, but why would you want to do this? Even if you did want to do this, it would be trivial to prove that the limit of that sequence {sqrt(n)/sqrt(n)} is 1.

Instead, what about multiplying the numerator and denominator by sqrt(n+1) + sqrt(n)? You'd be multiplying by 1, so this won't change the value of the terms in the sequence.

2. If all the even-subscript terms in the sequence are approaching A, and the odd-subscript terms are doing the same thing, you're going to have a difficult time proving the sequence converges to 1.
 
WTBash said:

Homework Statement


1. Prove that the sequence sqrt(n+1) - sqrt(n) converges to 0.
2. If sequence {an} is composed of real numbers and if lim as n goes to infinity of {a2n} = A and the limit as n goes to infinity of {a(2n-1)} = A, prove that {an} converges to 1. Is converse true?
3. Consider sequences {an} and {bn}, where bn = (an)^(1/n)
a. If {bn} converges to 1, does the sequence {an} necessarily converge?
b. If {bn} converges to 1, does the sequence {an} necessarily diverge?
c. does {bn} have to converge 1?


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The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure if I can divide sqrt(n) by sqrt(n) and prove that this new sequence goes to 1 without a loss of generality. As for the others, I am new to these proofs and any help would be much appreciated.
There is no reason to do that. As Mark44 said, multiply "numerator and denominator" by sqrt{n+1}+ sqrt{n}.

For problem two are you sure it didn't say "prove that {an} converges to A"? That would make a lot more sense.
 
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Wouldn't you just use the def of convergence to prove No. 1
 
need a little help with Xn= (cos n)/(n^3-n^2) and what it converges to.
 
shrug said:
need a little help with Xn= (cos n)/(n^3-n^2) and what it converges to.
Do NOT add new problems to someone else's threads. Start your own thread.

Here's a hint: [itex]-1\le cos(n)\le 1[/itex]. Of course, you are assuming n> 1.
 
Sorry I am a newbie!
 

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