Convergence Test: P(z) = 1 - z/2 + z^2/4 - z^3/8

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The problem involves determining the convergence or divergence of the series defined by P(z) = 1 - z/2 + z^2/4 - z^3/8, specifically when |z| = 2, where z is a complex number. The original poster presents their reasoning and calculations regarding the convergence of the series.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the general term a_n = (-1)^n z^n / 2^n and its behavior as |z| approaches 2. Questions arise about the convergence of the series when the terms do not approach zero.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the convergence criteria for the series, with some participants expressing skepticism about the claims made in a referenced textbook. Multiple interpretations of the convergence behavior at the boundary condition |z| = 2 are being considered, particularly regarding the specific case of z = -2.

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Participants note that the series is said to converge for all z with |z| = 2 except z = -2, leading to confusion and questioning of the textbook's reliability on this point. There is a recognition of the potential for misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the convergence criteria.

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Homework Statement


##P(z) = 1 - \frac{z}{2} + \frac{z^2}{4} - \frac{z^3}{8} + ... ##
Determine if the series is convergent or divergent if ## |z| = 2 ##, where, ## z## is a complex number.

Homework Equations


##1+r+r^2+r^3+...+r^{N-1}=\frac{1-r^N}{1-r}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Let, ##z = 2 exp (i \theta)##[/B]
For the first ##N## terms, the summation is,
##P_N (z) = \frac{1-(-1)^N exp(iN\theta)}{1+exp(i \theta)}=\frac{1-(-1)^N \cos (N\theta) - i (-1)^N \sin (N \theta)}{1 + exp (i \theta)}##
As ## N \rightarrow \infty##, ##\cos (N \theta)## and ## \sin (N \theta)## do not converge to a particular value.
So, I conclude that the series is not convergent for ## |z|=2##
But the answer says that the series converges to ##\frac{1}{1+\frac{z}{2}}##
 
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arpon said:

Homework Statement


##P(z) = 1 - \frac{z}{2} + \frac{z^2}{4} - \frac{z^3}{8} + ... ##
Determine if the series is convergent or divergent if ## |z| = 2 ##, where, ## z## is a complex number.

Homework Equations


##1+r+r^2+r^3+...+r^{N-1}=\frac{1-r^N}{1-r}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Let, ##z = 2 exp (i \theta)##[/B]
For the first ##N## terms, the summation is,
##P_N (z) = \frac{1-(-1)^N exp(iN\theta)}{1+exp(i \theta)}=\frac{1-(-1)^N \cos (N\theta) - i (-1)^N \sin (N \theta)}{1 + exp (i \theta)}##
As ## N \rightarrow \infty##, ##\cos (N \theta)## and ## \sin (N \theta)## do not converge to a particular value.
So, I conclude that the series is not convergent for ## |z|=2##
But the answer says that the series converges to ##\frac{1}{1+\frac{z}{2}}##
The general term of the series is ##a_n=\frac{(-1)^nz^n}{2^n}##.
Then, for ##|z|=2##, ##|a_n|=|\frac{z^n}{2^n}|=\frac{|z|^n}{2^n}=1##. How can this series converge if the sequence ##a_n## doesn't converge to 0?

I think you are correct.
 
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Samy_A said:
The general term of the series is ##a_n=\frac{(-1)^nz^n}{2^n}##.
Then, for ##|z|=2##, ##|a_n|=|\frac{z^n}{2^n}|=\frac{|z|^n}{2^n}=1##. How can this series converge if the sequence ##a_n## doesn't converge to 0?

I think you are correct.
Thanks for your comments. This was an example from 'Mathematical Methods for Physics and Engineering' by Riley, Hobson and Bence (page 133). This is a very reliable book. I think I lack some important concept here.
 
arpon said:
Thanks for your comments. This was an example from 'Mathematical Methods for Physics and Engineering' by Riley, Hobson and Bence (page 133). This is a very reliable book. I think I lack some important concept here.
I see. They write that it converges for all ##z## with ##|z|=2## except ##z=-2##.
Let's take ##z=2## then. The series becomes ##1-1+1-1 ...##, so the partial sums alternate between ##0## and ##1##.
A few lines before this they give an example with the same oscillating series and conclude (correctly in my book) that it doesn't converge:
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Call me baffled.
 
##\frac{1}{1+ z/2} = (1 + \frac{z}{2})^{-1} = 1 - \frac{z}{2} + \frac{z^2}{4} - \frac{z^3}{8} ... \ (|z| < 2)##
 
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PeroK said:
##\frac{1}{1+ z/2} = (1 + \frac{z}{2})^{-1} = 1 - \frac{z}{2} + \frac{z^2}{4} - \frac{z^3}{8} ... \ (|z| < 2)##
But the book claims that this series also converges for all ##z## with ##|z|=2## except ##z=-2##. This is clearly a highly regarded book, but still, I can't see how the series converges when ##|z|=2##.
 
Samy_A said:
But the book claims that this series also converges for all ##z## with ##|z|=2## except ##z=-2##. This is clearly a highly regarded book, but still, I can't see how the series converges when ##|z|=2##.

It doesn't. I thought you'd proved that.
 
PeroK said:
It doesn't. I thought you'd proved that.
I thought so too, but given the reputation of the book I started to fear I was missing something. Thanks for the second opinion.

arpon said:
Thanks for your comments. This was an example from 'Mathematical Methods for Physics and Engineering' by Riley, Hobson and Bence (page 133). This is a very reliable book. I think I lack some important concept here.
It's not you lacking some important concept here. It surely is a reliable book, but on this point you were right and they made a mistake. Happens to the best.
 
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