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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around methods for converting alternating current (AC) to direct current (DC), focusing on practical approaches and historical context. Participants share various techniques, components, and safety considerations relevant to this conversion process.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants mention using full wave bridge rectifiers with capacitors to smooth output pulses as a common method for AC to DC conversion.
  • Others refer to historical methods, such as using a single diode with a reservoir capacitor, noting that this approach may not provide a steady DC voltage.
  • One participant suggests starting with a step-down transformer as an AC source and experimenting with different rectifier circuits, emphasizing the importance of safety and proper components.
  • There are mentions of using simulation software like LTSpice to model circuits before physical construction, which could help in understanding the behavior of different configurations.
  • Participants discuss the availability of transformers and the need for protective components like fuses to ensure safety in experiments.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of methods and historical perspectives on AC to DC conversion, indicating that there is no consensus on a single best approach. Multiple competing views on techniques and safety measures remain present in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of safety when working with AC supplies and the potential need for protective devices, but specific safety standards or requirements are not fully resolved.

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Hi everyone i am Julius a 400L student, this is my first post as a new member of this great forum. Please,i want to know a step by step practical guide on how to convert AC to DC , i join this forum for me to properly learn (PRACTICAL) from the masters here and it will be my pleasure if i can have at list 90 percent of help i need in this forum to succeed in my future career i am having less that 1 year to finish my program at the university waiting for your positive repose thanks.
 
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juliusabidoye said:
Hi everyone i am Julius a 400L student, this is my first post as a new member of this great forum.Pls,i want to know a step by step practical guide on how to convert AC to DC , i join this forum for me to properly learn (PRACTICAL) from the masters here and it will be my pleasure if i can have at list 90 percent of help i need in this forum to succeed in my future career i am having less that 1 year to finish my program at the university waiting for your positive repose thanks.
Hello juliusabidoye,

In the olden days, we used full wave bridge rectifiers, with a capacitor on the output, to smooth out the pulses.

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I would imagine there are other ways to do this, by now.
 
In the even older days, they used to use just a single diode (rectifier) with a reservoir capacitor, which is not always needed if all you want is 'unidirectional current' rather than a steady DC voltage. Those Selenium Rectifiers were expensive, iirc - and pretty rubbish, too.
Did you look at Wikipedia? Here is a link.
 
Converting Ac to DC is the most generic way to describe this, as Sophie points out it can be done with one Diode, from there the systems become more and more complex, each method had it's own benefits, drawbacks and pittfals - while this can be studied on paper ( internet - etc) - but IMO building each type will have the best impact.

I would start with a small step down transformer as an ac source ( get an adviser to help and make this to be safe), and build into a small experimenters box. 120VAC to 12-0-12 Secondary. This will provide 12V or 24V AC source. ( On the AC side, you will need the plug, a fuse, and a properly rated switch), bring the 3 low voltage leads to binding posts.

From this you can build rectifier circuits with the 1, 2, 4 Diodes, and experiment with different filtering etc. on a basic breadboard.

Some type of basic oscilloscope will be best to see what is going on - a PC one will, do but the inputs need to be limited to ?? 0.7V? - I am not sure, but you can build a basic voltage divider probe 100/1 to keep the ratios in check. I would also advise to "build" each circuit in Spice ( LTSpice is free) - before you build the real circuit - then compare the Spice results with your real world results.

A set up like this could support about 20-40 AC/DC conversion experiments. I have been thinking of developing this as a web-curriculum, but I would reference a suppler like radio shack for parts ( as I am based in the USA) -the Safety aspect of the AC supply is my biggest concern.
 
well i want to sincerely appreciate you all that contributed to my thread i want to say i have find your information helpful thank you and God bless you.
 
rbelli1 said:
A quick search found this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-Power-...38006?pt=Battery_Chargers&hash=item2a2af3a8f6

This is just a transformer in a box. The fourth contact is wired through to the ground pin on the wall plug. Everything is isolated but I don't know if there is any fuses inside. I had one on the shelf so I took a look.

BoB

There are quite a few of these things available and they are of various qualities and voltages. It is possible that there is a thermal cutout to avoid overheating but it would be a good idea to provide yourself with a 2A fuse (in line type, perhaps) to protect it with. Probably the cheapest way to get your 'safe' AC supply to work with.
 

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