Convert Waves from Instantaneous to Phasor Form

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around converting a wave expressed in instantaneous form to phasor form, specifically focusing on the equation E(z,t) = E0 * exp(-αx) * cos(ωt - Bz) * ay. Participants seek to understand the conversion process, the determination of propagation direction, phase velocity, wavelength, and the computation of the curl of the electric field.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks how to convert the given wave equation to phasor form and determine its direction of propagation, phase velocity, and wavelength.
  • Another participant explains that a phasor represents the amplitude and phase of the wave, providing the general form and identifying components of the given equation.
  • There is a clarification regarding the direction of propagation being along the z-axis and the definitions of phase velocity and wavelength based on the wave number.
  • A participant inquires about computing the curl of the electric field after transforming to phasor form, questioning whether to include partial derivatives with respect to x due to the presence of x in the equation.
  • There is a correction regarding the interpretation of the variable α, with a participant confirming it represents α * x.
  • Another participant notes that the wave is polarized in the y-direction and that the curl computation will involve partial derivatives of Ey with respect to x and z.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions and components involved in the conversion to phasor form and the nature of the wave's polarization. However, there is some uncertainty regarding the computation of the curl and the implications of the variable x in the context of the electric field.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the wave's properties and the definitions of terms like phase velocity and wavelength are not explicitly stated. The discussion also reflects varying interpretations of the equation components and their implications for curl computation.

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I need help in understanding how to convert waves from instantaneous form to phasor form:

a wave expressed as E(z,t) = Eo * exp(-ax) * cos(wt - Bz) * ay

How do i convert this wave to phasor form and determine its direction of propagation, phase velocity and wavelength?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
 
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A phasor is a quantity associated to a wave, which tells us the amplitude and the phase of the wave.

It has the general form Ae^{j\phi} where A is the amplitude and \phi is the phase of the wave.

In your equation E(z,t) = E_{0}{\cdot}e^{-a_{x}}{\cdot}cos({\omega}t - Bz){\cdot}a_{y} ,

E_{0}e^{-a_{x}}a_{y} is the amplitude and -Bz is the phase.

The direction of propagation is in general, the direction of the wave vector, which here, since E = E(z,t) is simply the direction of the z axes. The phase velocity is by definition \omega and the wavelength is by definition \frac{2\pi}{wave number}, the wave number in this case being B.

a_{x} and a_{y} are the polarization parameters so they only affect the direction of the E vector in the xy plane.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phasor_(electronics) for more information on phasors.
 
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Thanks antonantal. One more question.

E(z,t) = E_{0}{\cdot}e^{-{\alpha}x}{\cdot}cos({\omega}t - Bz){\cdot}a_{y}

After transforming this equation to phasor form, how would I compute the curl of E? The field is E(z,t) with only a z-component, yet the equation has an x in it. Because of this, do I compute the partial derivative with respect to x as well?

Thanks in advance for any help.
 
korps said:
After transforming this equation to phasor form, how would I compute the curl of E? The field is E(z,t) with only a z-component, yet the equation has an x in it. Because of this, do I compute the partial derivative with respect to x as well?

That's an a_{x} not an a{\cdot}x isn't it?
 
it's an "{alpha} * x"
 
Ok. From the equation we can see that the wave is polarized on the y direction, since the polarization parameter a_{y} is present. This means that the E vector only has component on the y direction. But the size of this component depends on x and z.

So in the formula of the curl you will only have partial derrivatives of E_{y} with respect to x and z.
 
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