Converting Laplacian to polar coordinates

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The discussion focuses on converting the wave equation $$U_{tt}=\alpha^2\nabla^2U$$ into polar coordinates, specifically when the solution depends solely on the radial coordinate R and time t. The correct form of the Laplacian in polar coordinates is $$U_{tt}=\alpha^2[U_{rr}+\frac{1}{r}U_r]$$. A participant encountered difficulties in eliminating sine and cosine terms from their derived expression, which was resolved by recognizing the need to include the second derivative with respect to y, $$\partial^2 u/ \partial y^2$$, to complete the Laplacian.

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Homework Statement


$$
U_{tt}=\alpha^2\bigtriangledown^2U$$ in polar coordinates if solution depends only on R, t.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So, the books solution is $$U_{tt}=\alpha^2[U_{rr}+\frac{1}{r}U_r]$$. I am getting stuck along the way can't figure out this last step I think. Here is my attempt:

$$\frac{du}{dx}=\frac{du}{dr}\frac{dr}{dx} + \frac{du}{d\Theta}\frac{d\Theta}{dx}$$

$$\frac{d}{dx}(\frac{du}{dr}\frac{dr}{dx} + \frac{du}{d\Theta}\frac{d\Theta}{dx}) =

\frac{d^2u}{dr^2}*(\frac{dr}{dx})^2 + \frac{d^2u}{drd\Theta}\frac{dr}{dx}\frac{d\Theta}{dx} + \frac{du}{dr}\frac{d^2r}{dx^2}+\frac{d^2u}{d\Theta^2}(\frac{d\Theta}{dx})^2
+ \frac{d^2u}{d\Theta dr}\frac{d\Theta}{dx}\frac{dr}{dx} + \frac{du}{d\Theta}\frac{d^2\Theta}{dx^2}
$$

all the derivatives with theta = 0. So it becomes :
$$U_{rr}r_x^2 + U_rr_{xx}$$
$$ x=rcos(\Theta) $$
$$y=rsin(\Theta)$$

$$r=\sqrt(x^2+y^2)$$
$$ r_x = \frac{x}{sqrt(x^2+y^2)} = cos(\Theta)$$
$$r_{xx} = \frac{y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^{3/2}} = \frac{sin^2(\Theta)}{r}$$

When I plug in, I get :
$$U_{rr}cos^2(\Theta) + \frac{sin^2(\Theta)}{r}U_r$$
the books answer is the same, but without the sine and cos terms. How do I get rid of them otherwise what am I doing wrong?
 
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fahraynk said:

Homework Statement


$$
U_{tt}=\alpha^2\bigtriangledown^2U$$ in polar coordinates if solution depends only on R, t.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


So, the books solution is $$U_{tt}=\alpha^2[U_{rr}+\frac{1}{r}U_r]$$. I am getting stuck along the way can't figure out this last step I think. Here is my attempt:

$$\frac{du}{dx}=\frac{du}{dr}\frac{dr}{dx} + \frac{du}{d\Theta}\frac{d\Theta}{dx}$$

$$\frac{d}{dx}(\frac{du}{dr}\frac{dr}{dx} + \frac{du}{d\Theta}\frac{d\Theta}{dx}) =

\frac{d^2u}{dr^2}*(\frac{dr}{dx})^2 + \frac{d^2u}{drd\Theta}\frac{dr}{dx}\frac{d\Theta}{dx} + \frac{du}{dr}\frac{d^2r}{dx^2}+\frac{d^2u}{d\Theta^2}(\frac{d\Theta}{dx})^2
+ \frac{d^2u}{d\Theta dr}\frac{d\Theta}{dx}\frac{dr}{dx} + \frac{du}{d\Theta}\frac{d^2\Theta}{dx^2}
$$

all the derivatives with theta = 0. So it becomes :
$$U_{rr}r_x^2 + U_rr_{xx}$$
$$ x=rcos(\Theta) $$
$$y=rsin(\Theta)$$

$$r=\sqrt(x^2+y^2)$$
$$ r_x = \frac{x}{sqrt(x^2+y^2)} = cos(\Theta)$$
$$r_{xx} = \frac{y^2}{(x^2+y^2)^{3/2}} = \frac{sin^2(\Theta)}{r}$$

When I plug in, I get :
$$U_{rr}cos^2(\Theta) + \frac{sin^2(\Theta)}{r}U_r$$
the books answer is the same, but without the sine and cos terms. How do I get rid of them otherwise what am I doing wrong?

You forgot to add ##\partial^2 u/ \partial y^2## to get the Laplacian.
 
lol ugh thanks
 

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