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The discussion centers on the theoretical aspects of superconductivity, specifically the calculations related to the stability of the Fermi sea under attractive interactions. Participants explore derivations from various texts, including Kittel's "Introduction to Solid State Physics" and Plischke and Bergersen's "Equilibrium Statistical Physics," with a focus on the implications of second quantization in these contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses satisfaction with Kittel's derivation but identifies potential errors in Plischke and Bergersen's approach that cancel out, leading to similar results.
  • Concerns are raised about the assumptions underlying the introduction of a constant in the eigenvalue equation, particularly regarding the dependence of coefficients on energy versus momentum.
  • Another participant suggests that the constant in question may relate to the energy gap in BCS superconductors, noting that the s-wave gap is isotropic and thus justifies the assumption of independence from momentum.
  • Clarifications are sought regarding the integration limits and the specific values of momentum involved in the calculations, with one participant emphasizing that the integration occurs over a thin shell outside the Fermi sphere.
  • There is a discussion about the notation used in the variational method and its implications for understanding the derivation process.

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Participants express differing views on the assumptions made in the derivations, particularly concerning the dependence of certain variables on momentum. While some agree on the isotropic nature of the s-wave gap, others question the validity of the assumptions and the implications for the derivation.

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Limitations include potential missing assumptions regarding the dependence of coefficients on momentum and the specific integration domain for momentum values. These factors remain unresolved within the discussion.

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Hi all,

I am looking at (elementary) theory of superconductivity. In particular, I am looking at the calculation showing that a (however small) attractive interaction makes the Fermi sea unstable.

Kittel's "Introduction to solid state physics" (7 ed) sketches this calculation in Appendix H. I'm more or less happy of Kittel's version, which seems to follow quite closely the original derivation by Cooper.

The same subject is treated in chapter 9 of Plischke and Bergersen's "Equilibrium Statistical Physics", although in 2nd quantization.
I found a couple of errors in their derivation, which however happen to cancel out to produce the same result as in Kittel (except perhaps for a qualitatively irrelevant 1/2 factor).

I can follow most of their calculations, but there's a point I am not really getting.
The eigenvalue equation on their trial state produces the following equation

[tex] 0 = [E- 2 \epsilon(\mathbf{k})] \alpha_{\mathbf{k}} + v \sum_{\mathbf{q}}\alpha_{\mathbf{k}+\mathbf{q}},\qquad \epsilon_F \leq \epsilon(\mathbf{q}) \leq \epsilon_F + \hbar \omega_D[/tex]

where [tex]\epsilon(\mathbf{q})[/tex] is the free particle energy and the k's are outside the Fermi sphere (actually the book has a minus in front of v and the 2 in front of [tex]\epsilon[/tex] is missing).

Now the key point is to introduce a "constant" that allows to solve for the energy E. The book takes the continuum limit and sets

[tex] \sum_{\mathbf{q}}\alpha_{\mathbf{k}+\mathbf{q}} = \int_0^{\hbar \omega_D} d \epsilon \rho(\epsilon) \alpha(\epsilon) = \Lambda[/tex]


and here comes my problem. Is this exact or there's an underlying, undiscussed assumption?
Actually I can see two assumptions, the second of which I find rather disturbing

1) the coefficients [tex]\alpha_{\mathbf{k}}[/tex] actually depend only on the energy (scalar) and not on the momentum (vector).
2) [tex]\Lambda[/tex] does not depend on [tex]\mathbf{k}[/tex].

Accepting the above equation one gets

[tex] \alpha(\epsilon) = \frac{v \Lambda}{2 \epsilon(\mathbf{k})-E}[/tex]

which gives

[tex] 1 = v \int_0^{\hbar \omega_D} d \epsilon \frac{\rho(\epsilon)}{[2 \epsilon(\mathbf{k})-E}[/tex]

Solving this for E gives basically the final result as in Kittel.

But, as I say, the point 2 above puzzles me a lot. Is this a further assumption? What is its justification?
Is this some kind of truncated self-consistence?

The derivation by Kittel (Cooper) seems to be immune from this point, but I suspect it might be hidden in the assumption made about the matrix element.

Can someone give me an hint?


PS I have 2nd edition of Plischke's book. I'm trying to get hold of the 3rd edition, which could contain a more detailed discussion or, at least, a smaller number of errors...
 
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Ignore this reply (but not the problem above!).
 
I had a bit of a tough time trying to follow the notation and where exactly in the variational method you are at. The only think that I can guess is that your [itex]\Lambda[/itex] is actually the energy gap.

If that is the case, then to address #2, this is due to the fact that the s-wave gap in BCS superconductors are isotropic, i.e. no dependence on k, unlike the d-wave gap in high-Tc superconductors. So such an assumption is perfectly valid for BCS superconductors.

If you want a good reference text, I strongly recommend Tinkham's classic "Intro to Superconductivity". He covers both the variational method derivation AND the field-theoretic method to get the BCS theory.

Zz.
 
FranzDiCoccio said:
Hi all,

I am looking at (elementary) theory of superconductivity. In particular, I am looking at the calculation showing that a (however small) attractive interaction makes the Fermi sea unstable.

Kittel's "Introduction to solid state physics" (7 ed) sketches this calculation in Appendix H. I'm more or less happy of Kittel's version, which seems to follow quite closely the original derivation by Cooper.

The same subject is treated in chapter 9 of Plischke and Bergersen's "Equilibrium Statistical Physics", although in 2nd quantization.
I found a couple of errors in their derivation, which however happen to cancel out to produce the same result as in Kittel (except perhaps for a qualitatively irrelevant 1/2 factor).

I can follow most of their calculations, but there's a point I am not really getting.
The eigenvalue equation on their trial state produces the following equation

[tex] 0 = [E- 2 \epsilon(\mathbf{k})] \alpha_{\mathbf{k}} + v \sum_{\mathbf{q}}\alpha_{\mathbf{k}+\mathbf{q}},\qquad \epsilon_F \leq \epsilon(\mathbf{q}) \leq \epsilon_F + \hbar \omega_D[/tex]

where [tex]\epsilon(\mathbf{q})[/tex] is the free particle energy and the k's are outside the Fermi sphere (actually the book has a minus in front of v and the 2 in front of [tex]\epsilon[/tex] is missing).

Now the key point is to introduce a "constant" that allows to solve for the energy E. The book takes the continuum limit and sets

[tex] \sum_{\mathbf{q}}\alpha_{\mathbf{k}+\mathbf{q}} = \int_0^{\hbar \omega_D} d \epsilon \rho(\epsilon) \alpha(\epsilon) = \Lambda[/tex]


and here comes my problem. Is this exact or there's an underlying, undiscussed assumption?
Actually I can see two assumptions, the second of which I find rather disturbing

1) the coefficients [tex]\alpha_{\mathbf{k}}[/tex] actually depend only on the energy (scalar) and not on the momentum (vector).
2) [tex]\Lambda[/tex] does not depend on [tex]\mathbf{k}[/tex].

If the sum is over all \vec q, then Lambda does *not* depend on \vec k because I can simply change dummy variables from q to p=q+k.
[tex] \sum_{\mathbf{q}}f(\mathbf{q}+\mathbf{k})=\sum_{\mathbf{p}}f(\mathbf{p})\equiv \Lambda\;.[/tex]

So, then it is easy to see that only depends on the energy.
 
Sigh... the forums are just not letting me preview posts. The last line above is supposed to read:

"...that alpha only depends on energy".
 
Hi ZapperZ,

and thanks for replying!

I had a bit of a tough time trying to follow the notation and where exactly in the variational method you are at.

Sorry about the notation, I was following Plischke's, but I had not enough time to
copy the whole derivation, so I just mentioned the main points.
I'm attaching the relevant book section, which fits in a single page.

The only think that I can guess is that your [itex]\Lambda[/itex] is actually the energy gap.
If that is the case, then to address #2, this is due to the fact that the s-wave gap in BCS superconductors are isotropic, i.e. no dependence on k, unlike the d-wave gap in high-Tc superconductors. So such an assumption is perfectly valid for BCS superconductors.

No, that's not the energy gap. It is a constant that appears in most of the derivations I've seen. It is --- or it bears strict relation to --- what Kittel calls C in appendix H.

If you want a good reference text, I strongly recommend Tinkham's classic "Intro to Superconductivity". He covers both the variational method derivation AND the field-theoretic method to get the BCS theory.

Thanks, I'll look up into that.

Franz
 

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Hi olgranpappy,

and thanks for your suggestion.

olgranpappy said:
If the sum is over all \vec q, then Lambda does *not* depend on \vec k because I can simply change dummy variables from q to p=q+k.

Unfortunately the point is exactly that the sum is not on all [tex]\vec q[/tex], otherwise
my "problem" would have been trivial, as you suggest.
I've tried to specify the allowed values of [tex]\vec q[/tex] besides the first equation:
the integration domain is a thin shell outside the Fermi sphere.
Again, apologies for the "condensed" notation, but I thought that this particular constraint was quite standard, since I've seen it in every derivation I've found.

Franz
 
olgranpappy said:
If the sum is over all \vec q, then Lambda does *not* depend on \vec k because I can simply change dummy variables from q to p=q+k.

On second thoughts, I think that olgranpappy's reply is correct, although the "dumminess" of
k does not trivially ensue from the fact that the sum includes all q's.

As far as I understand, the point is that the sum in Eq. (9.6) of the attached excerpt includes all q's such that q+k lies in a shell surrounding the Fermi sphere. In this case, I see that [tex]\alpha_{k+q}[/tex] can be safely changed into [tex]\alpha_{q}[/tex].

I was mislead by the way Plischke put the condition on v(q). He says

[tex]v(\mathbf{q}) = -v[/tex]

for matrix element between states with

[tex]\epsilon_f \leq \epsilon(\mathbf{k}) \leq \epsilon_f + \hbar \omega_D[/tex]

and I got that as a constraint on q. If that was the case, k would not be a dummy index.

However now I'm almost sure he means that the constraint applies to all of the matrix elements involved
in the derivation of (9.6). This is obtained by applying (E-H) to

[tex] |\psi\rangle = \sum_{\mathbf{k}'} \alpha_{\mathbf{k}'} |\mathbf{k}'\rangle[/tex]

and subsequently projecting onto [tex]\langle \mathbf{k}|[/tex], where I introduced the
shorthand

[tex] |\mathbf{k}\rangle = c^\dag_{\mathbf{k} \uparrow} c^\dag_{-\mathbf{k} \downarrow} |F\rangle[/tex]

Working out all of the anticommutation one finds that if the interacting potential is not vanishing
only when the above kets meet the constraint, then the sum in 9.6 is actually on all q's such that q+k lies in a shell surrounding the Fermi sphere. Then the constant [tex]Lambda[/tex]
actually does not depend on k and the following calculations make sense, except for the errors which,
somewhat luckily, basically cancel out. It almost seems like Plischke vaguely recalled the calculation and
handwavingly managed to obtain the correct result. I think that this section is in need of some rewriting.

Thanks a lot for your help, and apologies for having been a bit sloppy.

F
 

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