Coordinate geometry with given parameters.

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The discussion revolves around a coordinate geometry problem involving points A, B, and P, with specific tasks related to distances and perpendicularity. Participants explore the mathematical relationships and equations governing these points, focusing on the application of the distance formula and line equations.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving points A(2,3), B(4,-3), and P(2+2t, 3-t), seeking to find values of t for specific geometric conditions.
  • Another participant suggests using the distance formula to find the length of AP, indicating that the length should equal 5 units.
  • A participant clarifies the equation of line l as x + 2y = 8 and discusses the slope derived from the coordinates of points A and P.
  • There is a discussion about the slope of the line traced by point P and its relationship to the perpendicular line from the origin O, with a focus on using the point-slope formula.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the definition of line l and its implications for solving the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the second part of the problem regarding the perpendicularity of OP to line l. Multiple viewpoints and methods are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions about the definitions of points and lines that are not fully clarified, particularly regarding the nature of line l and its coordinates. The discussion includes various mathematical steps that remain unresolved.

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Hello,

Please forgive me if it's in the wrong sub-forum because don't know where to place it.

I need help solving this problem it's chapter 1 and in our class we are already in chapter 5 so I might sound like a fool asking the teacher about it, I was revising and decided to do some questions then I stumbled on this question and got stuck.

Q.The coordinates of the points A and B are (2,3) and (4,-3) respectively,coordinates of P is (2+2t,3-t)

1.Find the values of t such that the length of AP is 5 units.

2. Find the value of t such that OP is perpendicular to l (where O is the origin). Hence, find the length of the perpendicular from O to l.

Just in case here are the answers 1. sqrt5 or -sqrt5 2. t= (-1/5,8/5 sqrt5)

I know in the first I should use the distance formula but I'm not getting the right answer.

I'm sorry if I sound too demanding.
 
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Re: Coordinate geometry.

Hello aguy1,
lets say we got $$A=(x,y)$$ and $$B=(p,g)$$ Then $$AB=(p-x,g-y)$$ and the length of A is $$|A|=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}$$ does this help you?

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$
 
Re: Coordinate geometry.

Petrus said:
Hello aguy1,
lets say we got $$A=(x,y)$$ and $$B=(p,g)$$ Then $$AB=(p-x,g-y)$$ and the length of A is $$|A|=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}$$ does this help you?

Regards,
$$|\pi\rangle$$

Thanks a lot, I got the answer for the first one :).

what about second question? I'm guessing O coordinates is (0,0) since it's the origin and I know the gradient should be perpendicular m1*m1=-1, so which equation should I use now?

Again thank you.
 
Re: Coordinate geometry.

You haven't told us what "l" is...

if l (I assume this is a lower case L) is the line traced out by the point P as t varies:

First, we need to find the slope of this line. we can write:

$l = (2,3) + t(2,-1)$

which makes it clear the slope of l is -1/2. Thus the perpendicular line has slope 2. Now solve:

$2 + 2t = 2(3 - t)$

(that is: find the point (x,2x) (the point on the line through the origin y = 2x) that lies on l).
 
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Re: Coordinate geometry.

Deveno said:
You haven't told us what "l" is...

Oh I'm very sorry, no coordinates of l just the line equation which is x+2y=8.

I hope you can forgive my foolishness.

It's a four part question but I finished both and the other two (which are the above, one which I just solved)

just for more info here are the two questions which I already solved.

(a) Find the equation of the line l through the point A(2,3) with gradient -1/2 (that's how I got l equation x+2y=8)

(b) Show that the point P with coordinates (2+2t, 3-t) will always lie on l whatever the value of t.
 
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Re: Coordinate geometry.

So my guess was correct, then, as:

$(2,3) + t(2,-1)$ passes through the points (2,3) (t = 0), and (4,2) (t = 1), so the slope is:

$\frac{2 - 3}{4 -2} = -\frac{1}{2}$.

Using the point-slope formula:

$y - y_1 = m(x - x_1)$ and the point (4,2)

We get:

$y - 2 = -\frac{1}{2}(x - 4)$
$y - 2 = \frac{-x}{2} + 2$
$y - 4 = \frac{-x}{2}$
$2y - 8 = -x$
$x + 2y = 8$

so it is the same line.
 

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