Coordinate systems parameterized by pseudo arc-length

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The discussion revolves around defining a coordinate system for a circular arc that makes a specified angle ##\alpha## with a 90-degree wedge. Participants explore the parameterization of such arcs, particularly focusing on the implications of varying the angle ##\alpha##.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help in defining a coordinate system for a circular arc parameterized by an angle ##\alpha##.
  • Another participant questions whether the focus is on defining a coordinate system or searching for a parameterization, suggesting that the latter is the case.
  • A specific example is provided where ##\alpha = {\pi\over 2}##, leading to a simple parameterization of a quarter circle in Cartesian coordinates.
  • There is a request for clarification on how to handle cases where ##\alpha \neq 90^\circ##.
  • A suggestion is made that the simplest case involves the center of the circle moving along the line ##y=x##, with a note that trigonometric calculations are necessary to determine the domain of ##s##.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the discussion is about defining a coordinate system or parameterization. There is no consensus on how to approach the parameterization for angles other than 90 degrees, indicating ongoing exploration and uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not resolved the mathematical steps necessary for parameterizing arcs at angles other than 90 degrees, and there are dependencies on definitions that remain unspecified.

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Hi PF!

Can anyone help me define a coordinate system for a circular arc that makes a specified angle ##\alpha## with a 90 degree wedge? See picture titled Geo.

As an example, a circular arc can be parameterized over a straight line by ##s##, making angle ##\alpha##, via $$\vec T = \left\langle \frac{\sin(s)}{\sin\alpha}, \frac{\cos (s) - \cos \alpha }{\sin\alpha} \right\rangle$$
 

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Hi,
joshmccraney said:
define a coordinate system
are you defining a cordinate system, or are you searching for a parametrization ?

I like to keep things simple and pick an easy example, e.g. ##\alpha = {\pi\over 2}##, Now $$\vec T = (\sin s, \cos s) $$ is a quarter circle with radius 1 and centered at the origin. For ##s\in [0, {\pi\over 2}]## oriented clockwise.

But it's a parametrization in a cartesian coordinate system.
 
BvU said:
Hi,
are you defining a cordinate system, or are you searching for a parametrization ?
Sorry, a parametrization!

BvU said:
I like to keep things simple and pick an easy example, e.g. ##\alpha = {\pi\over 2}##, Now $$\vec T = (\sin s, \cos s) $$ is a quarter circle with radius 1 and centered at the origin. For ##s\in [0, {\pi\over 2}]## oriented clockwise.

But it's a parametrization in a cartesian coordinate system.
Yep, this is simple, but what if I want ##\alpha \neq 90^\circ##?
 
Simplest case: center of circle moves along ##y=x##. (If you want to restrict to a single ##\alpha##)
And you have to do some trig to find the domain of ##s##.
 

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