B Correct way to write multiple argument functions

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The discussion revolves around the notation used in the Euler-Lagrange equation and whether it is necessary to list dependent variables alongside independent ones. Participants express that including both y(x) and y'(x) as arguments when x is already specified can be seen as redundant or ambiguous. However, it is argued that this notation serves a purpose in physics by emphasizing the relationships between physical quantities, despite its mathematical ambiguity. The conversation highlights the distinction between mathematical precision and the practical representation of physical systems. Ultimately, the notation reflects different perspectives on the system being analyzed, underscoring its relevance in both mathematics and physics.
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plob said:
You mean that since L is uniquely determined, i.e. single valued, with respect to x, it should be a regular rather than a partial derivative and that is the bad notation?

Yes, that's what I mean, but we really shouldn't call the function "L". The physics approach doesn't introduce a new name for the function created by substituting functions of x for the arguments of L.

Think about what we teach students in secondary school about functions. A function has a domain and co-domain. If two functions have a different domain, they are not the same function. If "L" was the name of a unique function, it would have a unique domain. In the case at hand, the domain of L is triples of real numbers. When we create a different function whose domain is single real numbers, we shouldn't call that function "L" - without apologizing to our classes of secondary school students!

You may find notation like ##\frac{dL}{dx}## used to indicate a "total derivative" of the unnamed function. That notation may be used alongside the notation ##\frac{\partial L}{\partial x}## , which indicates a partial derivative of ##L## with respect to its first argument.
 
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