Could UV lasers be used to split CO2 and H2O?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the feasibility of using intense UV light to split carbon dioxide (CO2) and water (H2O) molecules as a method for synthesizing liquid fuels. Participants explore the theoretical implications, potential applications, and challenges associated with this approach.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that UV light, if tuned to the correct wavelength, could potentially split CO2 and H2O molecules to create hydrocarbon fuels.
  • Others question the clarity of the original inquiry, seeking to understand if the discussion is about photochemical reactions leading to fuel synthesis.
  • One participant notes that breaking bonds is only part of the process and highlights the complexities of dealing with reactive gases produced from such reactions.
  • Concerns are raised about the conditions required for the reactions, including the presence of catalysts and the behavior of the resulting gas mixtures.
  • Another participant suggests that using photocatalysts might be a more viable approach than relying solely on UV light, citing several challenges related to UV light sources and reaction efficiencies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of using UV light for this purpose, with no consensus reached on whether it is a viable method. Multiple competing perspectives on the effectiveness and practicality of the approach remain present.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various limitations and challenges, such as the efficiency of UV light sources, the intensity of the light, the density of the molecules involved, and the efficiency of the reactions themselves. The discussion also highlights the uncertainty surrounding the byproducts of the proposed reactions.

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I was wondering whether intense UV light, tuned to the correct wavelength, could be used to split carbon dioxide and water molecules as a first step towards synthesizing liquid fuels.
 
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To what end?
 
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To what end?
Well, to make hydrocarbon fuels efficiently using solar electricity rather than getting them out of the ground and adding to global warming.
 
I really don't know what the question is trying to say. Are you asking would a photochemical reaction of water and carbon dioxide lead to hydrocarbon fuels?
 
HAYAO said:
I really don't know what the question is trying to say. Are you asking would a photochemical reaction of water and carbon dioxide lead to hydrocarbon fuels?
I'm asking whether uv light can be used to efficiently spit H20 and CO2 molecules. I understand that UV photons have roughly the same energy as covalent bonds so I thought it might be possible.
 
Just breaking a bond is only a smart part of the process, not necessarily the most important one. Even assuming you were able to split water into oxygen and hydrogen you get a mixture of two highly reactive gases being heated and excited by the UV radiation. Guess what will happen next.
 
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Borek said:
Even assuming you were able to split water into oxygen and hydrogen you get a mixture of two highly reactive gases being heated and excited by the UV radiation. Guess what will happen next.

The OP is talking about the photolysis of water and carbon dioxide (and not just pure water). It is not as easy to guess what happens with a mixture of H2O, H2, O2, H, O, OH, CO2, CO and C. That would strongly depend on the conditions and the presence of catalysts.
 
jcap said:
I'm asking whether uv light can be used to efficiently spit H20 and CO2 molecules. I understand that UV photons have roughly the same energy as covalent bonds so I thought it might be possible.
Okay, then the answer is very unlikely.

Might want to rely on photocatalysts instead. There are several difficulties in using UV lights source including, but not limited to, 1) do we have a efficient UV light source? 2) How "intense" is the light source? 3) How dense are the H2O and CO2 molecules? 4) How efficient are the reactions itself? 5) How about the byproducts?
Given these question, would using UV light source overcome the disadvantages?
 

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