Could Walking Like a Gorilla Increase Strength?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores whether teaching a child to walk on their legs and knuckles, similar to gorillas, could lead to increased strength compared to their peers. It considers the implications of such a practice on physical development, strength comparisons between humans and gorillas, and potential impacts on the human spine.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that a child taught to walk on legs and knuckles might be stronger than peers, referencing the significant strength of gorillas compared to humans.
  • Others argue that gorillas' strength is primarily due to their body proportions and muscle mass, suggesting that humans would not gain strength merely from adopting a similar walking style.
  • A participant mentions that the differences in strength between humans and other hominids may not be related to gait, citing studies that indicate genetic factors and muscle composition differences as more significant contributors.
  • Concerns are raised about the ethical implications and the statistical validity of raising a child in such a manner, emphasizing that it would be an isolated case and not representative of broader outcomes.
  • Another participant highlights the importance of skeletal structure in relation to muscle and load-bearing capabilities, suggesting that anatomical differences play a crucial role in strength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between walking style and strength, with no consensus reached on whether adopting a gorilla-like gait would enhance human strength. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of such a practice.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the ethical considerations of the proposed scenario, the reliance on anecdotal comparisons, and the lack of empirical evidence supporting the idea that walking like a gorilla would lead to increased strength in humans.

Alanay
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I was just thinking while watching the Zookeeper movie. If a child is born and we teach it how to move on it's legs and knuckles instead of just it's legs would it end up being a great deal stronger than people it's age? I think the most weight ever lifted by man was 450 KG, and an average gorilla male can life up to 2000 KG. Would this also have any negative impacts on the spine etc.?
 
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Alanay said:
I was just thinking while watching the Zookeeper movie. If a child is born and we teach it how to move on it's legs and knuckles instead of just it's legs would it end up being a great deal stronger than people it's age? I think the most weight ever lifted by man was 450 KG, and an average gorilla male can life up to 2000 KG. Would this also have any negative impacts on the spine etc.?
Gorillas walk the way they do because of their body proportions. Look at how much muscle mass they have compared to their height. That's where their strength comes from. A human trying to walk that way will not gain strength by virtue of the position (or as close as we can come to it), IMO.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4011/4530705035_d759182cfd_b.jpg
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berkeman said:
Gorillas walk the way they do because of their body proportions. Look at how much muscle mass they have compared to their height. That's where their strength comes from. A human trying to walk that way will not gain strength by virtue of the position (or as close as we can come to it), IMO.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4011/4530705035_d759182cfd_b.jpg
4530705035_d759182cfd_b.jpg

Yeah, I guess even if we try a large amount of weight will still be put on legs, maybe if somebody is born with shorter legs we could try this...
 
The comparative differences in strength between humans and other hominids doesn't have anything to do with our gait. Multiple studies have observed that chimps, bonobos and gorillas have naturally superior muscles to us though the exact mechanism is still not entirely understood. There are some theories that humans evolved for more fine muscle control over raw strength, these cite observable differences in our nervous system and complement of muscles (I.e. More given over to fine control). You can read more from these references which themselves contain references to other studies:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1635523/
http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/10.1086/592023

Whilst there are some theories that the strength differences come from daily life (I.e more active lives of primates versus humans) that's not a very popular theory as it doesn't explain how other primates have been observed to out perform top athletes. Thus the difference is much more likely thought to be genetic, so even if you did raise a short legged human to walk like a gorilla (leaving aside for the moment how incredibly unethical that would be and would still be statistically meaningless given its only n=1) they would not be as strong as other primates.
 
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I think that that the skeletal structure would be a BIG giveaway about muscle and load bearing. http://www.upright-health.com/pelvic-anatomy.html

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