Coulumb's law: What is the net charge of the shell?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the net charge of a non-conducting spherical shell with an inner radius of 4.0 cm and an outer radius of 6.0 cm, where the volume charge density is defined as ρ = b/r, with b = 3.0 µC/m². To find the total charge, participants emphasize the need to integrate the charge density over the volume of the shell, leading to the equation Q = ∫ρ dV. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding charge density and the integration process in spherical coordinates to solve the problem accurately.

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Homework Statement


A nonconduction spherical shell, with an inner radius of 4.0 cm and an outer radius of 6.0 cm, has charge spread nonuniformly through its volume between its inner and outer surfaces. The volume charge density p is the charge per unit volume, with the unit coulumb per cubic meter. For this shell p = b/r, r is the distance in meters from the center of the shell and b = 3.0µ C/ m^2. What is the net charge of the shell?


Homework Equations




Density = mass / volume

or p = mass / volume

volume of a sphere (3/4) * pi * r^2

Coulumb's law: F= k * (Q1 * Q2)/r^2

F = m*a

K= 8.99 * 10^9 N* m^2/C^2

q = n * e

e = 1.602 * 10^-19 C

The Attempt at a Solution


I'm confused. It gives me two radius's. So how do I start this problem. Hint.
 
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You're supposed to find the total charge, and you're given the density function p, so go integrate!
 
What do you mean by integrate, do you mean I shall take the derivative.
 
afcwestwarrior said:

Homework Equations




Density = mass / volume

or p = mass / volume

volume of a sphere (3/4) * pi * r^2

Coulumb's law: F= k * (Q1 * Q2)/r^2

F = m*a

K= 8.99 * 10^9 N* m^2/C^2

q = n * e

e = 1.602 * 10^-19 C

None of these equations are relevant here. Instead of listing every equation from your formula sheet, you might try looking up the term "charge density" since you don't seem to understand what it means.

Homework Statement


...The volume charge density p is the charge per unit volume, with the unit coulumb per cubic meter...

Using this definition, if I gave you an infinitesimally small piece of material, with charge density \rho and volume dV, could you tell me the amount of charge dq enclosed in that volume?

You should, of course, be able to say immediately that the amount of charge is given by dq=\rho dV.

Your shell is made up of a whole bunch of little pieces of charge just like this, and so to find the total charge enclosed in its volume so simply add them all up, or integrate:

Q=\int\rho dV
 
Ok, so I have to integrate it. Yea I'm barely learning this stuff, and it's confusing when you apply calculus to physics.
 
So it becomes Q= p * v

Because p is constant and the antiderivative of DV is V.
 
afcwestwarrior said:
So it becomes Q= p * v

Because p is constant and the antiderivative of DV is V.

Ermmm...*cough* *cough*...

afcwestwarrior said:
... has charge spread nonuniformly through its volume... For this shell p = b/r, r is the distance in meters from the center of the shell and b = 3.0µ C/ m^2.

That doesn't sound much to me like \rho is constant in this case:wink:
 
So it becomes Q = (p^2) /2 * V
 
afcwestwarrior said:
So it becomes Q = (p^2) /2 * V

No, the integral V\int\rho d\rho would equal that...but that's not what you are trying to calculate.

You need to express the volume element dV in spherical coordinates...do you know how to do that?
 
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Yea I do, but I'm very rusty on it. Ouch.
 
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afcwestwarrior said:
Yea I do, but I'm very rusty on it. Ouch.

Try a little elbow grease to get the rust off then.:wink:
 
  • #12
Thanks man for the help.
 

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