Gauss's Law - A nonconducting spherical shell

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The problem involves applying Gauss's law to a nonconducting spherical shell with a uniform volume charge density, aiming to derive the electric field at specified radial distances from the center of the sphere. The context includes two cases: one where the distance is between the inner and outer radii of the shell, and another where the distance is outside the outer radius.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Gauss's law, with attempts to calculate the electric field in two scenarios based on the radial distance. Questions arise regarding the appropriateness of charge calculations and whether the charge inside the Gaussian surface should vary with distance.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided their calculations and are seeking validation of their approaches. There is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions made regarding the charge distribution and its impact on the results. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being examined, particularly concerning the charge enclosed within the Gaussian surfaces.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the assumptions about the charge distribution and the applicability of certain equations to the specific geometry of the problem. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations align with the physical setup of the spherical shell.

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1. Homework Statement

A nonconducting spherical shell of inner radius R1 and outer radius R2 contains a uniform volume charge density ρ throughout the shell. Use Gauss's law to derive an equation for the magnitude of the electric field at the following radial distances r from the center of the sphere. Your answers should be in terms of ρ, R_1, R_2, r, ε_0, and π.

a) R_1 < r < R_2
b) r > R_2

2. Homework Equations
∫E dA = Q_enc/ε_0


3. The Attempt at a Solution

For a), I tried using Gauss's law to find it and I arrived at:

E = [ρ(R_1)^3]/[3(ε_0)(r^2)]

For b), I also used Gauss's law to find:

[ρ(R_1)^3 + ρ(R_2)^3]/[3(ε_0)(r^2)]


I'm not quite sure what I'm doing wrong...
 
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Simply posting your answers is next to useless. Show your work.
 
Ok. Here's my work:

For a), my gaussian surface is between the two shells
For b), my gaussian surface is outside both shells

a) ∫E dA = Q_enc/ε_0
E(4πr^2) = [ρ((4/3)π(R_1)^3)]/[ε_0]
E = [ρ((4/3)π(R_1)^3]/[(ε_0)(4πr^2)]
E = [ρ(R_1)^3]/[3(ε_0)(r^2)]

b)∫E dA = Q_enc/ε_0
E(4πr^2) = [ρ((4/3)π(R_1)^3) + ((4/3)π(R_2)^3)]/[ε_0]
E = [ρ(R_1)^3 + ρ(R_2)^3]/[3(ε_0)(r^2)]
 
Edasaur said:
Ok. Here's my work:

For a), my gaussian surface is between the two shells
For b), my gaussian surface is outside both shells

a) ∫E dA = Q_enc/ε_0
E(4πr^2) = [ρ((4/3)π(R_1)^3)]/[ε_0]
E = [ρ((4/3)π(R_1)^3]/[(ε_0)(4πr^2)]
E = [ρ(R_1)^3]/[3(ε_0)(r^2)]
Shouldn't the amount of charge inside the sphere vary with r? The expression you have on the righthand side is a constant that's equal to the amount of charge in a solid sphere of radius R1 with charge density ρ. It's not applicable to this problem.

b)∫E dA = Q_enc/ε_0
E(4πr^2) = [ρ((4/3)π(R_1)^3) + ((4/3)π(R_2)^3)]/[ε_0]
E = [ρ(R_1)^3 + ρ(R_2)^3]/[3(ε_0)(r^2)]
I think if you figure out a), you'll see what's wrong here.
 
I just did a) again:
∫E dA = Q_enc/ε_0
E(4πr^2) = [ρ((4/3)π(r/R_1)^3)]/[ε_0]
E = (ρr)/(3(ε_0)(R_1)^3)

Does that seem right?
 
When r=R1, does it give the right answer?
 

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