Counting Elements in a Set: {1,2,{3},{4,5},6,{{7}8}}

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The problem involves counting the elements in a specific set: {1,2,{3},{4,5},6,{{7}8}}. Participants are exploring the rules and definitions related to set elements and their structure.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to interpret the elements of the set, with one attempting to clarify the rules for counting elements, while others question the definitions and structure of sets, particularly regarding nested sets.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and seeking further clarification on the rules of counting elements in sets. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of nested sets, but confusion remains about specific elements and their categorization.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a potential typo in the representation of the set, which may affect understanding. Participants are also grappling with the definitions of elements and subsets in the context of set theory.

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Homework Statement



How many elements are in the set below?
{1,2,{3},{4,5},6,{{7}8}}

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The Attempt at a Solution



I heared that the best way is to take of the {} each time. But can somebody tell me the real rules for how to find solutions for this question. Cant seem to find it on the internet and in books. For this question i think its 8. I'm not really looking for the answer but more the explanation how i should solve this question. Thank you

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
1,2
3
4,5
6
78
7
8
 
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The set {A, B, C, D, E, F} contains 6 "elements": A, B, C, D, E, and F.

The fact that, in this case, A= 1, B= 2, C= {3}, D= {4, 5}, E= 6, and R= {{7} 8} doesn't change that.

(There does appear to be a typo here. "{{7} 8}" should be "{{7}, 8}".)
 
HallsofIvy said:
The set {A, B, C, D, E, F} contains 6 "elements": A, B, C, D, E, and F.

The fact that, in this case, A= 1, B= 2, C= {3}, D= {4, 5}, E= 6, and R= {{7} 8} doesn't change that.

(There does appear to be a typo here. "{{7} 8}" should be "{{7}, 8}".)

Yes sorry that was a typo and thanks for your answer, but can you explain me the rules (Because now I'm even more confused expecially that 7 isn't a own set in this set. (Correction element in this set)
 
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Think of sets as boxes that contain items, perhaps fruit. In your case, you have a box that contains fruit, as well as additional boxes (which themselves might contain fruit or additional boxes, or may be empty). In counting the elements of a set, you only count the items that are part of that set, not part of a subset (i.e., not things contained in boxes that are in your first box).
 
What definition of "set" are you using?
 

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