Covalency and Oxidation Number in Covalent Compounds

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the covalency and oxidation number of nitrogen in the covalent compound NCl3. Participants explore the relationship between electronegativity and oxidation states, as well as the implications of using different electronegativity scales.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that nitrogen should have an oxidation number of "-3" due to its higher electronegativity compared to chlorine.
  • Others argue that the correct oxidation number is "+3," questioning how this can be reconciled with electronegativity values.
  • One participant states that chlorine is more electronegative than nitrogen, which contradicts earlier claims.
  • There is mention of hydrogen bonding, with participants noting that nitrogen forms hydrogen bonds while chlorine does not.
  • Participants discuss the relevance of the Allen and Pauling scales of electronegativity, with some expressing confusion about their applicability.
  • One participant suggests that oxidation numbers are merely for electron accounting and do not reflect real properties of elements, highlighting the limitations of using electronegativity for predictions.
  • Concerns are raised about the reliability of predictions based on electronegativity differences, especially in cases where those differences are small.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express conflicting views on the oxidation number of nitrogen in NCl3, with no consensus reached regarding the correct value. The discussion also reveals differing opinions on the use of electronegativity scales and their implications for chemical bonding.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the application of electronegativity to predict oxidation states may not yield consistent results, particularly in cases with small differences in electronegativity. The discussion highlights the complexity of these concepts and the potential for varying interpretations.

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Homework Statement



NCl_{3}

What is the Co-valency / Oxidation number of Nitrogen in this Covalent compound ?

Homework Equations



I think the table of electronegativity might be useful

The Attempt at a Solution



Nitrogen must be "-3" since it is more electronegative than Chlorine.

The correct answer is +3. How is that possible ?

Clearly Nitrogen is more electronegative than chlorine.
 
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hms.tech said:

Homework Statement



NCl_{3}

What is the Co-valency / Oxidation number of Nitrogen in this Covalent compound ?

Homework Equations



I think the table of electronegativity might be useful

The Attempt at a Solution



Nitrogen must be "-3" since it is more electronegative than Chlorine.

The correct answer is +3. How is that possible ?

Clearly Nitrogen is more electronegative than chlorine.

Chlorine is more electronegative than nitrogen. :)
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Chlorine is more electronegative than nitrogen. :)

Nitrogen forms hydrogen bonds in its compounds with Hydrogen attached .

Chlorine rarely forms any hydrogen bonds in any of its compounds .

Here :
Electronegativity scale.jpg
 
hms.tech said:
Nitrogen forms hydrogen bonds in its compounds with Hydrogen attached .

Chlorine rarely forms any hydrogen bonds in any of its compounds .

Here : View attachment 55758

Allen Scale? :confused:

Pauling Scale is the one you need to use.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
Allen Scale? :confused:

Pauling Scale is the one you need to use.

hmm...doesn't Pauling scale gives us wrong values since according to pauling scale Chlorine being more Electronegative should form Hydrogen bonds .
 
As if it all mattered...

First: oxidation numbers don't reflect any real property of the element, they are used just for electron accounting.

Second: using electronegativity to predict anything is a quite fuzzy concept, more of a general indication than a hard rule, especially when the differences in electronegativity are small.

Taking both things into account - don't be surprised you get inconsistent predictions trying to apply rule of thumb to border cases.
 

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