Create curve function from intersection of two surfaces

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The discussion revolves around creating a curve function from the intersection of two surfaces defined by the equations \(4x - y^2 = 0\) and \(x^2 + y^2 - z = 0\). Participants are exploring the implications of setting these equations equal to one another and the resulting interpretations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the method of setting the two equations equal to solve for \(z\) and question the validity of this approach. There is a suggestion to substitute one equation into the other to find a one-variable function. Some participants express confusion over the independence of the equations and the implications of equating them.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and corrections to each other's reasoning. There is recognition of the need to maintain the independence of the equations while exploring their relationship. Suggestions for alternative approaches have been made, indicating a productive direction.

Contextual Notes

Participants note constraints such as the requirement for \(x \ge 0\) and \(z \ge 0\) based on the equations provided. There is an emphasis on the importance of retaining all information from the equations during manipulation.

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Homework Statement
Create the curve r(u) from
$$4x - y^2 = 0$$
and
$$x^2+y^2-z = 0$$
Relevant Equations
Vector calculus
What I do is set the two equations equal to one another and solve for z.
This gives:
$$z = \sqrt{x^2+2y^2-4x}$$
which is a surface and not a curve.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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Addez123 said:
Create the curve r(u) from
$$4x - y^2 = 0$$
and
$$x^2+y^2-z = 0$$

Addez123 said:
What I do is set the two equations equal to one another and solve for z.
This gives:
$$z = \sqrt{x^2+2y^2-4x}$$
which is a surface and not a curve.

What am I doing wrong?
I don't see how you got the equation you show.

The two equations can be rewritten as
##y^2 = 4x## and
##z = x^2 + y^2##
Note that from the equations above, that ##x \ge 0## and ##z \ge 0##.
Substituting, we get ##z = x^2 + 4x##.
 
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Addez123 said:
Homework Statement:: Create the curve r(u) from
$$4x - y^2 = 0$$
and
$$x^2+y^2-z = 0$$
Relevant Equations:: Vector calculus

What I do is set the two equations equal to one another and solve for z.
What do you even mean by this? The two equations are independent equations and putting two independent equations equal to each other makes no sense whatsoever.

If you mean that you put the non-zero sides of the equations equal to each other then that is where you went wrong because you just threw away the information that both expressions are equal to zero independently and you will end up with the surface along which those expressions take the same value regardless of whether that value is zero or not.
 
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Ahh it's true!
I eliminated the information when i set them equal. I should've done like @Mark44 suggested and used
$$y^2 = 4x$$
into the second equation. Then I can easily get a one variable function/curve.
 
Note: I would use ##y## as the curve parameter instead.
 

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