Creating a function based on data using integration

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The discussion revolves around creating a mathematical function to model Elvis' album sales based on RIAA certifications. The original poster describes an equation derived from sales data, specifically focusing on how the function relates to the number of albums certified at various sales thresholds.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss potential methods for deriving the function, including graphing data points and fitting a curve. There is mention of using least squares techniques for estimating constants in the function.

Discussion Status

Some participants express confusion about the calculations involved, particularly regarding the output of the function when substituting values for x. There is a recognition of the need to adjust results, such as multiplying by 100, to align with expected outcomes. The conversation indicates ongoing exploration of the function's accuracy and the rationale behind rounding.

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Participants note that the problem is not a traditional homework question but rather an inquiry into a mathematical modeling approach. There is mention of excluding certain data points to avoid skewing the results, which may affect the function's formulation.

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I first posted this in the pre-calculus section, then the guy who first came up with the formula hinted at integration, so I guess it's meant to be in the calculus section

Now this isn't a homework question, it's something me and some others are looking into, and someone posted this function, and I'm not sure how he worked it out:

Creating a function for Elvis' album sales based on the RIAA certifications of his albums that have been certified so far

69 albms - over 500,000 sales certified
39 albums - over 1,000,000
19 albums - over 2,000,000
11 albums - over 3,000,000
4 albums - over 4,000,000 and 5,000,000
2 albums - over 6,000,000
1 albums - over 9,000,000

Let exclude the 4 albums over 4 million, which could be estimated on their own and disturb the linear repartition of figures.

I set X = 500000*x

Then Elvis statistics are almost perfectly equal to the function 1/(1,23*x + 0,278).

Let x = 1 if you want to find albums that sold over 500,000
Let x = 2 if you want to find albums that sold over 1 million
etc.

So what he's done is used the figures from the albums certified to create an equation. So therefore if you substitute 1 for x in the function, which is actually equal to 500,000 you will get all the albums that certified for over 500,000 sales, it's not exact, but it's a close enough function, how did he work that function out?


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I have no idea!
 
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Probably just drew a graph and concentrated on the points that seemed to fit a smooth curve. Adjusted a and b in f(x)=1/(ax+b) to fit it. You can use least squares type techniques to help to you estimate the constants. But I'm confused. I put x=1 into 1/(1.23*x+0.278) and I get 0.663. That's not 67. Do you mean I should multiply by 100 also?
 
Dick said:
Probably just drew a graph and concentrated on the points that seemed to fit a smooth curve. Adjusted a and b in f(x)=1/(ax+b) to fit it. You can use least squares type techniques to help to you estimate the constants. But I'm confused. I put x=1 into 1/(1.23*x+0.278) and I get 0.663. That's not 67. Do you mean I should multiply by 100 also?

Yea you have to multiply by 100, I got 66.3 too, but I guess he rounded up, not sure why he rounded up, but the other values seems to indicate that's what he did.
 
JFonseka said:
Yea you have to multiply by 100, I got 66.3 too, but I guess he rounded up, not sure why he rounded up, but the other values seems to indicate that's what he did.

Like I said, you can use least squares to fit almost any smooth curve pretty well. Especially if you start throwing out points that don't fit. And use creative rounding to boot.
 
I'm not too sure what that is, but I'll look at it now!

Thanks Dick.
 

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