Current density in a wire that is being used to charge a capacitor

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of current density in a wire used for charging a capacitor, with participants examining the relationship between charge, current, and time. The context includes considerations of instantaneous rates and potential errors in calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between current and charge, questioning the application of the equation I=Q/t in this scenario. There is discussion about the instantaneous rate of charge flow and the correct interpretation of wire dimensions.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the use of derivatives to address the problem, while others have pointed out potential misunderstandings regarding the equations and units involved. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, and there is no explicit consensus on the initial calculations.

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There are constraints regarding the use of specific equations for current and the proper representation of wire dimensions, which are under discussion. Participants also note the significance of figures in measurements provided.

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Homework Statement
Wire, with diameter of 0.7 mm2, is used to charge a capacitor. Charge on the capacitor plate is described as: Q(t):=4*t^3+5*t+3 [C]. What is current density in a wire, at given time t=2s?
Relevant Equations
Q(t):=4*t^3+5*t+3 , j=I/A , I=Q/t
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Somehow this answer is incorrect , but i realize that even numbers are hipothetical , 45 coulumbs is too much charge , what is wrong in my calculations?
 
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Q(t) is the total charge on the capacitor, including what has accumulated in the past. The current in the wire is the rate at which new charge is added/removed.
 
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Okay , but I = Q/t so that's 12.5 A in the wire at the moment t=2, but why isn't the answer correct , is there some kind of a mistake in calculation?
 
As @DaveE pointed out, the current I in the wire at the instant t = 2 s is the instantaneous rate at which charge is flowing through a cross-section of the wire. This must equal the instantaneous rate at which charge is arriving at the plate of the capacitor at t = 2.

How do you calculate the instantaneous rate of change of some function of time?
 
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Ugnius said:
Homework Statement:: Wire, with diameter of 0.7 mm2,
A diameter could have units of mm, but not mm2.
 
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Ugnius said:
what is wrong in my calculations?
The equation I=Q/t can’t be used here. This equation applies to situations where current is constant or we only want the average current. T help you understand your mistake, try this problem:

An object moves along a straight line so its distance (x) from a reference point (x=o) is given by:
x(t) = 4t³ + 5t + 3
Q1. What is the object’s average speed during the interval t=0 to t=2s?
Q2. What is the object’s speed at the instant t=2s?
_____________

Also note “Wire, with diameter of 0.7 mm2” doesn’t make sense. You probably mean:
“Wire, with cross-sectional area of of 0.7 mm²” or
“Wire, with diameter of 0.7 mm”
You need to be certain which one it is.

@Edit. @TSny beat me to it!
 
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Thanks guys , I managed to solve it using derivatives , your help much appreciated.
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Congratulations, good work!
 
Ugnius said:
Thanks guys , I managed to solve it using derivatives , your help much appreciated.
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Well done. But don't forget that 0.7mm² and 2s are each specified to only 1 significant figure.
 

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