Current leading voltage or vice versa concept

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of phase relationships between current and voltage in AC circuits, particularly focusing on capacitors and inductors. Participants explore whether these relationships have a conceptual basis or if they are merely a result of mathematical formulations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if there is a conceptual explanation for the leading or lagging behavior of current and voltage in AC circuits.
  • Another participant explains that in inductors, voltage leads current by 90° due to the relationship between voltage and the rate of change of current.
  • In contrast, for capacitors, it is proposed that current leads voltage, as current is related to the rate of change of voltage.
  • A different perspective is offered through teaching experiences, where one participant describes using a battery and inductor to illustrate that current takes time to rise, suggesting that current is 'behind' voltage.
  • Another participant emphasizes the idea that voltage can be seen as the cause of current flow, framing voltage as a potential difference that drives current through resistance.

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Participants present multiple competing views regarding the phase relationship between current and voltage, with no consensus reached on a singular conceptual explanation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express that their explanations are not rigorous and may depend on specific teaching contexts or interpretations of AC theory.

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Hello,

I was wondering if there is a conceptual explanation for when current leads voltage or vice versa for capacitors or inductors with AC voltages, or is it just the way the math pans out?
 
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Hi Woopydalan! :smile:

In a resistor, voltage is proportional to current, so there's no lead or follow.

In an inductor voltage is proportional to rate of change of current, so when the current is at phase zero, the voltage must be maximum, at phase 90°, ie leading.

In a capacitor, voltage is proportional to charge, so rate of change of voltage is proportional to current, so it's the other way round, ie current leading. :wink:
 
This is a difficult idea to show in the early stages of learning AC theory. When I teach this I use a battery with an ammeter and connect this to an inductor. When the switch is closed it is clear that it takes some time for the current to rise to its steady value after the voltage is connected. In some way it seems reasonable to state that 'the current is behind the voltage'.
Do the same with a capacitor and a battery and when the switch is closed the current is at a maximum and you have to wait for the voltage to rise to its steady value. So in some way the voltage is 'behind' the current.
Not rigorous...but I find it a useful, non mathematical aid. ( some of my physics students do not do maths)
 
I'm not sure what specific example you're referring to, but a voltage is a potential difference, and voltage per unit length of wire is a measure of the electric field strength, which is what causes the electrons to move and overcome resistance in the wires. For that reason I always think of voltage as the cause and current as the effect.
 
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