Current on Parallel Conducting Wires

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The problem involves two long, straight, parallel wires carrying currents, with one wire's current known and the other unknown. The task is to determine the unknown current based on the magnetic field produced at the origin due to both wires.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the vector sum of the magnetic fields produced by each wire at the origin, questioning the contributions of each wire and the direction of the fields. There are attempts to relate the magnetic field to the unknown current I2, with some participants expressing confusion about the relationships and directions involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the magnetic fields and their contributions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the right-hand rule and the direction of the magnetic field, but no consensus has been reached on the exact relationship between the currents.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of deriving the relationship for I2 from the given information and express frustration with the lack of clarity in their textbook regarding the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



Two very long, straight, parallel wires carry currents that are directed perpendicular to the page as shown in Figure P30.9. Wire 1 carries a current I1 into the page (in the -z direction) and passes through the x-axis at x = +a. Wire 2 passes through the x-axis at x = -2a and carries an unknown current I2. The total magnetic field at the origin due to the current-carrying wires has the magnitude 2µ0I1 / ( 2πa ). The current I2 can have either of two possible values.

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I needed to get this online homework done fast so I had to look up the answers and got I2 = 2*I1 and I2 = 6*I1. These were right but I have no idea how to get them and i struggled with this for about an hour now and still nothing. In my textbook also it only shows how to find the force between them. Its driving me nuts to figure this out and could really use some help on this one.
 
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The field at the origin is simply the vector sum of the individual fields due to wire 1 and wire 2.

What's the field at the origin due to wire 1, magnitude and direction?

What's the total field at the origin?
 
vela said:
The field at the origin is simply the vector sum of the individual fields due to wire 1 and wire 2.

What's the field at the origin due to wire 1, magnitude and direction?

Wouldn't it just be µI2/(2πa) ?
 
Why would it depend on I2 if it's the field due to wire 1? And in what direction does the field point?
 
Oh yeah I was trying to find I2, so would it be µI1/2πa and pointing out of the page because of the right hand rule?
 
You do want to use the right hand rule, but it doesn't point out of the page. Remember the field lines form circles centered on the wire, so the field will lie in the plane of the page.
 
Ohh okay so it would make a Clockwise B- field?
 
Yup, so at the origin, the field due to wire 1 points up the page.
 
Okay so how have I make that formula condense down too I2 = 2*I1?
 
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Apply what I said in post 2. You need to figure this out on your own.
 

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