Current, Power and Energy in a Capacitance

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The discussion revolves around calculating current, power, and energy in a capacitor based on a provided voltage-time graph. It includes aspects of homework problem-solving, mathematical reasoning, and conceptual understanding of capacitor behavior in electrical circuits.

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  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculated the current using the capacitance and the slope of the voltage graph but encountered difficulties in integrating voltage to find power.
  • Another participant suggested that calculating power does not require integration and mentioned a simple relationship between power and voltage in a DC circuit.
  • One participant described their method of calculating power as finding voltage through integration of current and then using the relationship P=vi.
  • There was a mention of the energy stored in the capacitor being calculated using the formula W=1/2 CV^2, but uncertainty remained regarding how to determine voltage and the limits for integration.
  • Another participant pointed out that the voltage was already provided in the problem, which could simplify calculations.
  • A later reply indicated that understanding the point gradient formula was crucial for the calculations.
  • One participant noted that they were working on a similar problem and found the discussion helpful.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants expressed different approaches to calculating power and energy, with some advocating for simpler methods while others preferred integration. There is no consensus on the best method to approach the problem, and some participants remain uncertain about specific steps.

Contextual Notes

Participants expressed confusion regarding the limits for integration and the relationship between voltage and current, indicating potential gaps in understanding the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement
The graph below shows the voltage across a 100 μF capacitor vs. time.
Find the current (Ix), the power delivered (Px) and the energy stored (Wx) at time tx = 8 s.


The attempt at a solution

I found the current, Ix using the capacitance multiplied by the slope between 7s and 13s. However, I got stuck when I tried to integrate the voltage in order to find power because I don't know what the limits t and t0 should be.
 

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Hi,

You seem to have calculated the current correctly, so you are on the right track. But to calculate the power, I think you are over-complicating the problem; no integral is necessary. There is a very simple relationship between the power delivered to, and the voltage across a capacitor in a DC circuit.

However, the energy stored in the capacitor will require an integral (well, strictly speaking anyway). But perhaps once you've worked out the power delivered to the capacitor, you may be able to work out this part.

Let me know how you go.
 
well the method i was using to calculate the power was first finding v=1/c multiplied with the integral of current already found out and then using using the relationship p=vi with the valuse we already have.
 
dudforreal said:
well the method i was using to calculate the power was first finding v=1/c multiplied with the integral of current already found out and then using using the relationship p=vi with the values we already have.

That's correct. Note that both the voltage and the current are negative over interval [0..8ms], so the energy absorbed by the capacitor is positive. You can calculate it as the integral of "vi dt" over that interval, but it's much easier to just use W= \frac{1}{2} C V^2.
 
I know that to calculate energy is W=1/2CV^2, I'm just still stuck on how to get voltage and what limits to put for the integral.
 
dudforreal said:
I know that to calculate energy is W=1/2CV^2, I'm just still stuck on how to get voltage and what limits to put for the integral.

What integral? You've already got i = c \frac{dv}{dt}, which you've done graphically. And then you've got P=vi, which is just multiplication. Then you've got W = 1/2 cV^2.

You've already got the voltage, it was given in the question.

I'm confused about exactly what you're asking.
 
ok i get it now i just didn't realize that you have 2 use the point gradient formula . Thanks a lot.
 
Lol I'm doing a very similar question on webtutor I'm guessing ur question is from that as well just wanted to say it was really helpful to me thnx :)
 

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